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Post by shoshin on Nov 19, 2015 12:37:59 GMT
The Native American woman's above eyes, nose and mouth shaping bear more resemblance than Underwood, IMO. I agree. We have plenty of pics of Agnetha in Indian dress. Could a skilled photoshopper darken the skin, change eye colour and make the hair black as a comparative exercise?  Or the opposite with the native photo. To illustrate the vagaries of such comparison though, I found the picture below on a native American site, titled 'Lakota Girl 1875' (the Lakota are a Sioux Indian people). The image seemed to me an extraordinary likeness in terms of Agnetha's eye shape, nose and lips. Then I noticed the fan in her hand, which didn't look very native American, so I researched the photo some more. Turns out that she was actually a Filipino of Chinese descent! Still worth seeing the pic though; an eerily modern beauty, given that the photo was taken 140 years ago:  |
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Post by Fafner on Nov 19, 2015 12:44:34 GMT
We have plenty of pics of Agnetha in Indian dress. Could a skilled photoshopper darken the skin, change eye colour and make the hair black as a comparative exercise? Or the opposite with the native photo. To illustrate the vagaries of such comparison though, I found the picture below on a native American site, titled 'Lakota Girl 1875' (the Lakota are a Sioux Indian people). The image seemed to me an extraordinary likeness in terms of Agnetha's eye shape, nose and lips. Then I noticed the fan in her hand, which didn't look very native American, so I researched the photo some more. Turns out that she was actually a Filipino of Chinese descent! Still worth seeing the pic though; an eerily modern beauty, given that the photo was taken 140 years ago: That's weird - I fail to spot here any similarity whatsoever. |
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Post by andyb on Nov 22, 2015 16:22:09 GMT
Sorry, don't see any similarity whatsoever!
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Post by shoshin on Nov 22, 2015 17:56:39 GMT
Sorry, don't see any similarity whatsoever! You don't see any similarity between an 1870s Chinese mestizo and a 1970s Swedish blonde? How strange  Of course the pic doesn't look like Agnetha. My point was that the eyes (upturned) nose (celestial) and lips (full) are a match, and that therefore we should be cautious about making assumptions about ancestry based on physical characteristics. I was trying 'to illustrate the vagaries of such comparison'. The thread topic had gradually morphed from Nordic to Baltic to Sami to Creek Indian. I was just noting my folly in misidentifying a Filipino-Chinese woman as being native Indian and then assigning Agnetha's features to her. I can remove the pic if it is confusing in a lookalikes thread. I showed it just because I liked it and thought others might too: such an old photo yet such a modern beauty. To be honest I didn't see any of Agnetha in Fafner's native Indian photo either. The reason that I found Richard Thornton's article interesting wasn't that I thought Agnetha has native Indian features (I'm not at all convinced by his Carrie Underwood connection), but that Richard Thornton thought she had Sami features (I think he may have a point). |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 23:32:46 GMT
^^ Further to the discussion above, I recently came across a photograph of Agnetha in the unlikely context of a native American Indian historian's web page. The author, Richard Thornton, was advancing the theory that there is a similarity between American Indians and the Sami (Lapps) of Northern Sweden. In support of his argument, he included Agnetha because she 'has the typical facial features of a Creek Indian woman in northern Georgia'! She is slide 3 in this sequence: www.examiner.com/slideshow/teepees-sweden-and-north-america-plus-beautiful-agnetha-faltskog#slide=1There is a link underneath the slideshow to a related article 'Teepees with rooms and a view' in which he writes: When this author was in Lappland, local Sami often came up to him speaking Sami, because he looked to them like a tall, well-tanned Sami. What appears to be “American Indian features” can also be sometimes seen in fair-skinned, blond haired Swedes. For example, ABBA superstar Agnetha Faltskog, in her youth was quite similar in appearance to contemporary superstar, Carrie Underwood, in her youth. Carrie is a legally a Native American. She is a citizen of the Muscogee-Creek NationLater in the article Thornton claims that he met Agnetha 'after a performance near Malmo, Sweden (pre-ABBA)' and that they discussed their physical similarities. On a different web page he writes that Agnetha 'told me then that she had always been aware that she looked different than most Swedes, but no one in her family knew where the Asiatic features came from'. The author does appear to have worked in Landskrona during the period, and in an Agnetha YouTube comment he gives apparently credible details about seeing her perform in JCS and at a later gig at Lund University. However, it may seem a little convenient that he personally met Agnetha and that she corroborated his later ethnic theories. I wonder if Swedish ABBAchatters like @jensj2 have any views on this? Do Swedes with Sami ancestry look in any way different or distinctive, to other Swedes? There is a typical Sami physical appearance, yes. They tend to be dark haired and have slanted 'asiatic' eyes - much like the Finns, who are a much greater part of the ethnic mix here. By the way, I've never heard that Agnetha quote before; it doesn't sound authentic. Not least because to me she couldn't look more Swedish... |
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Post by shoshin on Nov 27, 2015 1:39:35 GMT
I wonder if Swedish ABBAchatters like @jensj2 have any views on this? Do Swedes with Sami ancestry look in any way different or distinctive, to other Swedes? ...to me she couldn't look more Swedish... Oh really? That's interesting. To English people of course, Agnetha was the archetypal Swedish bombshell. However, I thought until now that a native Swede might see in her eyes a fleeting Baltic/Finnish/Sami influence, perhaps when she smiles a certain way or looks to the side. One website compared her eyes to those of the Russian actress Tatiana Samoilova, from St. Petersburg. Though I should say that on that website a native Swede said the same as you: '...nobody in Sweden would think she's more "Finnish-looking" than "Swedish-looking."' |
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Post by shoshin on Dec 15, 2015 22:41:42 GMT
Aimlessly surfing this evening I somehow ended up randomly seeing this video of champion armwrestler and tv gladiator Sarah Bäckman, and nearly fell off my seat. First, you have to think early Agnetha. Second, I would turn off the sound cos it's a distraction, especially as her sport is hardly something you would immediately associate with Agnetha. Now, what do you reckon? Some of the expressions are uncanny, especially at 19-20 seconds, 40-41s (I've seen a much later Agnetha doing that one) and 1m20-21s (yep, you even get the famous lip bite).
Spookily, it was only after I decided that this was definitely a lookalotalike that I learned that Sarah is Swedish too. I guess she is quite well known there Jensj2?
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Post by Fafner on Dec 15, 2015 22:48:32 GMT
Good find Shosin! I can definitely see the resemblance. But that's a very weird thing that she's doing...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 17:14:00 GMT
I guess she is quite well known there Jensj2? No, I've never heard of her! Here's the female arm wrestling champion everybody knows of here in Sweden! (True story, there was a celebrated documentary about her a few years ago) |
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Post by shoshin on Dec 26, 2015 2:20:32 GMT
A still of Sarah Bäckman (she was 'Spirit' in Swedish Gladiators)  |
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Post by Fafner on Jan 8, 2016 15:33:35 GMT
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Post by shoshin on Jan 8, 2016 17:31:15 GMT
That will be Camilla Dahlin/Hedren, do you remember her story? As a child she was prominent in the audience of the Thank You For The Music video, then grew up to be Agnetha in one of the most professional of all the ABBA tribute bands. To any ABBAchatters who don't know of her already, check out the video moment here and see if you can spot the future Agnetha lookalike in the audience before the close-up gives it away. That's Camilla. |
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Post by Fafner on Jan 8, 2016 17:36:18 GMT
That's interesting shoshin, I didn't know her. |
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Post by shoshin on Jan 8, 2016 17:59:52 GMT
That's interesting shoshin , I didn't know her. In the set of photos you linked to, I think this one is also a decent lookalotalike. Below it is a video clip of Camilla mentioning her TYFTM appearance in an interview. I'm afraid she's not one of the best soundalikes imho, but they are one of the most professional tribute acts and sometimes have original ABBA band members on their tour  |
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Post by Fafner on Jan 8, 2016 18:03:48 GMT
That's interesting shoshin , I didn't know her. I'm afraid she's not one of the best soundalikes imho, but they are one of the most professional tribute acts and sometimes have original ABBA band members on their tour Neither she's much of a lookalike save in the photo that I posted, which is a bit weird - when I saw the photo first, I could've sworn that it's Agnetha. |
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Post by shoshin on Mar 3, 2016 2:35:55 GMT
This pic came up in a Google search for Benny pictures, which threw me for a moment because the guy does look a bit like an older Benny. The girl.. well, is it me or does she look like Agnetha, if (and only if) Agnetha had chosen not to change her 1975 hairstyle and clothes for the next twenty years or so? A bit like when there's a missing person and the police try to make up an image of what they might look like many years later. And don't 'Benny and Agnetha' look confusingly affectionate here? I always thought those two should get together one day  As regulars might know or guess, this is actually Benny's son Peter and his wife Nanne, who is herself a well-known Swedish singer. I can't say that I see a great deal of Agnetha in most of her other photos, but there's something familiar about her eyes in particular here, no?  (image from abbaofficial.wordpress.com) |
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Post by shoshin on Mar 20, 2016 23:35:12 GMT
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Post by Fafner on Mar 21, 2016 11:05:39 GMT
^^ Yes a little bit...  |
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Post by agness on Mar 21, 2016 17:26:19 GMT
Our russian tennis-player Anna Kournikova around 2010  |
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Post by benede on Apr 27, 2016 20:31:22 GMT
A girl at the Woodstock festival......same impression of joy and happiness, not to mention serenity!   |
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Post by benede on Apr 27, 2016 20:35:41 GMT
Sorry, the second image above should have been this.....I am new to this stuff. It is the same anonymous girl!  She is so beautiful and could be Agnetha's twin, both in attitude and beauty! |
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Post by Fafner on Apr 27, 2016 20:49:26 GMT
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Post by Fafner on May 11, 2016 15:24:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 20:02:23 GMT
Swedish singer Karin Marklund.  |
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Post by shoshin on Jun 18, 2016 21:55:01 GMT
^^ Even seems like it's the same photo session as one Fafner recently posted! |
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Post by Fafner on Jun 19, 2016 12:55:10 GMT
^^ Another variant:  |
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Post by shoshin on Sept 5, 2016 23:11:48 GMT
Another pic of Paige, the Latvian lookalike discovered by Fafner earlier in the thread:  |
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Post by josef on Sept 5, 2016 23:27:21 GMT
I'm stunned at some of these. I can definitely see a resemblance in certain areas. It might be just skin tone (Agnetha has a flawless complexion), or the eyes, nose, something in the actual pose or whatever but it is undoubtedly there.
As Spock would say- "Fascinating."
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Post by Fafner on Sept 6, 2016 11:34:29 GMT
And here's a Frida lookalike (some of her modeling names are Helena and Andy/Andie)  |
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Post by chron on Sept 6, 2016 15:03:37 GMT
If you could overlay the faces of Liv Ullmann and Bibi Andersson, you'd get a pretty good approximation of Agnetha's face:   Liv Ullmann's face isn't far off by itself, but the eyes and eyebrows are a little 'soft'; the sharper look of Bibi Andersson's eyes and eyebrows would increase the resemblance. Ingmar Bergman actually did combine their faces, in a scene in the film Persona, but rather than being overlaid, longitudinal halves of each respective face were combined to make one face, to unsettling effect:  |
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