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Post by shoshin on Dec 6, 2016 1:01:59 GMT
A thread to gather together tracks by other artists that, whether in an obvious or subtle way, might bring a particular ABBA song to mind.
Does Giorgio Moroder's Underdog ring a bell?
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Post by shoshin on Dec 6, 2016 11:44:06 GMT
I have no clue..pleace tell us! Sorry, I should have said that if the first 14 seconds of intro don't ring ring a bell then no need to keep listening; the actual song that follows is an acquired taste at best. This was my least subtle example too; so I'm not sure that this will be a very successful thread  |
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Post by shoshin on Dec 7, 2016 23:38:20 GMT
I'm not ready to give up on this thread yet. Here's Stevie Wonder's I Wish. Does the intro bring an ABBA track to mind? Slowing it down to half speed in YouTube might help (in the Settings 'cog' icon).
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Post by josef on Dec 9, 2016 1:32:42 GMT
Is it The Name Of The Game?
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Post by josef on Dec 12, 2016 16:47:40 GMT
That first song by Giorgio Moroder reminds me of Ring Ring.
Am I right shoshin?
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Post by shoshin on Dec 12, 2016 22:28:09 GMT
That first song by Giorgio Moroder reminds me of Ring Ring. Am I right shoshin? Indeed! It's a slight variation on the same ascending line |
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Post by shoshin on Dec 12, 2016 23:20:29 GMT
We've covered the ' I Wish' intro/verse to TNOTG, but is the chorus similarly derivative? Well, have a listen to Wild Thing by The Troggs. It may not be easy, but see if you can prove that it's the same chord riff Wait till they've sung the first 'Wild Thing..' and then try to sing '...does it mean anything to you?' in the right place and in the right key. You should get to the 'to you' just as he starts with 'you make my heart sing'. Then you sing 'what's the name of the game?' at the same time that he sings 'you make everything groovy', and your 'can you feel it the way I do?' will end just as the last 'wild thing' is about to start. Or the other way round; play TNOTG and sing 'I wanna know..what's the name of the Wild Thing' |
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Post by josef on Dec 14, 2016 17:42:21 GMT
Ok, I thought I'd have a go.
Which ABBA song does the intro to this remind you of?
The winner gets a mini carton of Um Bongo and a Garibaldi biscuit.
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Post by Ginger Spice on Dec 15, 2016 3:26:44 GMT
Gimme! x3?
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Post by shoshin on Dec 15, 2016 14:20:07 GMT
Gimme the chance to re-post my attempt at it
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2016 16:59:27 GMT
Blimey, that makes me feel old. I used to have that KISS album. Nowhere near their best (which was 'Dynasty', since you ask).
We can't, of course, forget one of my favourite old Europop bands from the 70s. Not so much a question of 'what ABBA song' but 'how many ABBA songs does this remind you of'?
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Post by josef on Dec 15, 2016 18:15:48 GMT
Yep, it's Gimme x3. Congrats. Your turn.
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Dec 15, 2016 18:58:48 GMT
Those costumes looks like Agnetha's Ring Ring costume a bit, the redness of it!!!
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Post by shoshin on Dec 15, 2016 19:14:22 GMT
This one surprised me by stumping one or two people when I posted it on another thread/forum, which was interesting because if you can manage to filter out the musical style, the verse melody is so unmistakable that it approaches copyright infringement. Name that ABBA song |
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Post by Ginger Spice on Dec 16, 2016 4:05:45 GMT
^Sounds like it borrows its verses from the same song that this one does.
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Post by chron on Dec 16, 2016 11:10:50 GMT
This one surprised me by stumping one or two people when I posted it on another thread/forum, which was interesting because if you can manage to filter out the musical style, the verse melody is so unmistakable that it approaches copyright infringement. Name that ABBA song Got to be Lay All Your Love.. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 23:13:23 GMT
^Sounds like it borrows its verses from the same song that this one does. The reason I love LAYLOM so much is that it was truly groundbreaking; it was the first, and should have remained the last, techno song ever produced! |
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Post by shoshin on Dec 17, 2016 0:24:23 GMT
With the two LAYLOM examples above, the melody was very similar but the musical arrangement wasn't. I'm wondering if it is easier or more difficult to name the ABBA song when the opposite is the case? The general indebtedness of Steps to ABBA's catalogue is well established, but One For Sorrow is almost entirely stolen from a specific ABBA song. You won't pick this up from the melody because, hate him or hate him, Pete Waterman has done a pretty good job of covering his tracks. However, both verse and chorus are directly taken from the ABBA song's two main chord progressions. In fact, if it wasn't for a four bar link between each verse and chorus, and a bridge instrumental section that would itself be suspiciously familiar to Jackson 5 fans, you can play a One For Sorrow karaoke backing track and sing the ABBA song over it instead.
Can you name that ABBA song? If the melody gets in the way, one tell tale sign would be to focus on the chorus and in particular the chord transition that occurs on the 'now' of '..somewhere else right now', and the 'doubt' of '...someone else no doubt'. These passing notes have Benny written all over them and should give the game away.
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Post by Fafner on Dec 17, 2016 1:33:35 GMT
^^ The Winner Takes it All?
But the verses don't particularly remind me of TWTKI, though they certainly have an Abba vibe to them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2016 9:12:14 GMT
Those costumes looks like Agnetha's Ring Ring costume a bit, the redness of it!!! Quite. But what about the music, Alex? Apart from the obvious connection to 'Gimme, Gimme, Gimme' halfway through and towards the end, there are at least two, definitely four, arguably even more, affinities to others (think early albums, especially). |
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Dec 17, 2016 18:19:33 GMT
If It Wasn't For The Nights and My Mama Said?
They've got nice thighs!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2016 21:29:35 GMT
If It Wasn't For The Nights and My Mama Said? They've got nice thighs!!! A couple of decent shouts there. 'My Mama Said' was definitely one of the semi-clear ones I had in mind. |
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Post by shoshin on Dec 18, 2016 1:08:59 GMT
^^ The Winner Takes it All? But the verses don't particularly remind me of TWTKI, though they certainly have an Abba vibe to them. The verses use the first TWTIA chord sequence from 'I don't want to talk..' to '..now it's history', while the choruses use the altered sequence up to '..destiny'. Some kind soul has demonstrated this by editing the tracks to synch them and then sending them separately through the left and right channel; works best with headphones of course. |
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Post by Fafner on Dec 18, 2016 1:16:31 GMT
^^ The Winner Takes it All? But the verses don't particularly remind me of TWTKI, though they certainly have an Abba vibe to them. The verses use the first TWTIA chord sequence from 'I don't want to talk..' to '..now it's history', while the choruses use the altered sequence up to '..destiny'. Some kind soul has demonstrated this by editing the tracks to synch them and then sending them separately through the left and right channel; works best with headphones of course. Wow that's really cool, the chords do match! I would've never noticed if that wasn't pointed out for me (except the chorus where's it's blatantly obvious). The disadvantage of not being a musician... |
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Post by Fafner on Dec 18, 2016 1:24:46 GMT
There are quite few other songs by the group which sound like Abba, though I can't name which Abba songs they remind me of (perhaps it's just a few chord progressions). Maybe you can help out shoshin? For example "Last Thing On My Mind", "After The Love Has Gone", "Tragedy" and perhaps "It's the Way You Make Me Feel" Edit: I think I figured out which Abba song "Tragedy" sounds like (at least the verses), what do you think? |
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Post by Fafner on Dec 18, 2016 20:45:04 GMT
I think I figured out which Abba song "Tragedy" sounds like (at least the verses), what do you think? youtube.com/watch?v=OiwDHHcHPh0 Any suggestions before I give my answer? (if I correctly understood the idea behind the thread) |
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Post by shoshin on Dec 18, 2016 22:18:09 GMT
I think I figured out which Abba song "Tragedy" sounds like (at least the verses), what do you think? youtube.com/watch?v=OiwDHHcHPh0 Any suggestions before I give my answer? (if I correctly understood the idea behind the thread) Are you thinking melody or the backing track? Tragedy is interesting, because it was composed by the Bee Gees in 1979. Two years earlier they had written If I Can't Have You for ABBA, but B & B turned it down (which really was a 'tragedy' imho), and then by 1978 ABBA was in its Voulez Vous period, trying to imitate the Bee Gees. A quick Google serach turns up a number of people who are asking whether Tragedy was ABBA or Bee Gees, and on YouTube there is even a (poor) ABBA tribute act performing Tragedy! So Tragedy should be fertile ground for finding similarities, but so far I'm only hearing a couple of tenuous and fleeting possibilities. |
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Post by Fafner on Dec 18, 2016 22:28:42 GMT
Any suggestions before I give my answer? (if I correctly understood the idea behind the thread) Are you thinking melody or the backing track? Tragedy is interesting, because it was composed by the Bee Gees in 1979. Two years earlier they had written If I Can't Have You for ABBA, but B & B turned it down (which really was a 'tragedy' imho), and then by 1978 ABBA was in its Voulez Vous period, trying to imitate the Bee Gees. A quick Google serach turns up a number of people who are asking whether Tragedy was ABBA or Bee Gees, and on YouTube there is even a (poor) ABBA tribute act performing Tragedy! So Tragedy should be fertile ground for finding similarities, but so far I'm only hearing a couple of tenuous and fleeting possibilities. To me the verse melody from 0:34 onward remind of the chorus from "Lovelight". |
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Post by shoshin on Dec 18, 2016 22:43:30 GMT
To me the verse melody from 0:34 onward reminds of the chorus from "Lovelight". Excellent! I hadn't noticed that, but it is indeed the same melody |
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Post by Fafner on Dec 18, 2016 22:53:07 GMT
To me the verse melody from 0:34 onward reminds of the chorus from "Lovelight". Excellent! I hadn't noticed that, but it is indeed the same melody Another one - the verses on "After The Love Has Gone" ( youtube.com/watch?v=iz36fINs_YY) sound to me like the verses from Fernando. But maybe it's less the melody and more the style and delivery. Man, these guys really knew their Abba  |
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