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Post by Liebezeit on Mar 15, 2017 1:02:28 GMT
.. I don't know how exactly infamous he was? Well, I consider stealing a song not once, but twice, as he did with this one (he just changed record label and released it again) offensive enough. For even more serious charges, visit any Runaways forum. But he also made some major bona fide contributions to rock music… If that was intentional in stealing the song (I kinda doubt it – I'm calling in a subconscious plagiarism, like the analogy between Jorge Ben Jor's 'Taj Mahal' and Rod Stewart's 'Da Ya Think I'm S**y'), then I'd be more than surprised. I'd say Kim is a major offender [after doing a mini-research on him], from making bland novelty records [I've heard better, in my opinion. An opportunist who wants shock, but has bad promotions], to going too far with The Runaways. I don't want this thread to go off topic but I'll conclude my statement on him: Love the music, dislike the man. Made me earn a little more respect for Benny Andersson; of whom he watches his composition like a hawk. |
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Post by Liebezeit on Mar 16, 2017 21:23:36 GMT
(Name that Frida song) Had to get my mind out and post it for the sake of it (Not sure if someone's posted it already) – This song has a kind of reggae vibe that would later land in Frida's song (of course it's ABBA related) from her famous English solo album (just gave you a hint) – take a shot which Frida's song does this have this kind of intro that Scorpions laid out? :-) No response in two days: Give up? Answer: " Frida – I See Red" |
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Post by Liebezeit on Mar 20, 2017 0:57:59 GMT
 It's only ABBA related because of Rutger Gunnarsson... Name that Rutger song: an easy task for ABBA fans alike. He happens to have a song that resembles like Bob Dylan's arrangement and production of 'If Not For You' in a vague, non-direct way, like Wizzard's 'See My Baby Jive' to ABBA's 'Waterloo', though, this has yet to be proven.. Care to take a guess what's the name of the song? Hint: both songs between Bob Dylan and Rutger have the slide guitar parts and are in the key of E... plus, Rutger doesn't sing like George Harrison like Bob does |
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Post by Liebezeit on Mar 25, 2017 23:45:02 GMT
He [Rutger Gunnarsson] happens to have a song that resembles like Bob Dylan's arrangement and production of 'If Not For You' in a vague, non-direct way, like Wizzard's 'See My Baby Jive' to ABBA's 'Waterloo', though, this has yet to be proven.. Care to take a guess what's the name of the song? Hint: both songs between Bob Dylan and Rutger have the slide guitar parts and are in the key of E... plus, Rutger doesn't sing like George Harrison like Bob does No reply? I'll give that 'Name that Rutger song' two days for someone to answer this. Meanwhile.. This particular song is in the same key.. and it sounds rather similar in an uncanny move, but the chord progression is rather too simple to be analyse, so it's rather easy; Name that ABBA song. ;-) |
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Post by gary on Mar 28, 2017 23:39:38 GMT
This post doesn't quite fit under the thread title, but I'm sure you'll forgive me.
I expect some fans of a certain age (mine) and nationality (mine) will remember a TV series from 1976 and 1977 called Rock Follies. I've recently been playing the two albums containing songs from the series, and thoroughly enjoying them. It's nostalgia for lost youth, I'm sure!
But to get to the point, the songs generally (not specifically) reminded me of ABBA songs. I think it's because they are very melodic, of the same period and production style, and have strong female lead vocals (mainly those of Julie Covington, the original singer of Don't Cry For Me Argentina).
Does anyone else have fond memories of this series and its music?
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Post by Liebezeit on Mar 30, 2017 0:23:11 GMT
I expect some fans of a certain age (mine) and nationality (mine) will remember a TV series from 1976 and 1977 called Rock Follies... ...the songs generally (not specifically) reminded me of ABBA songs. I think it's because they are very melodic, of the same period and production style, and have strong female lead vocals (mainly those of Julie Covington, the original singer of Don't Cry For Me Argentina). I may not be at a 'certain age' or British myself, but it kinda helps if you want to bring a particular sample to get others interested on how the Rock Follies songs sound a lot like ABBA. I'm very much of an auditory learner and I can't exactly rely on reading texts that well when it comes to finding similarities between one music and another, but since you've said 'generally' instead of 'specifically', I'll relent on it, anyway.  Were they like the Spinal Tap of 1970s before THE Spinal Tap came along? [though they're not exactly related]  ...I was about to make a separate post on these but nobody has answered my riddles on the thread, dang.. Still persisting, nonetheless. That keyboard sounds rather familiar, but again, the chord progressions are vastly different. I'm sure that it sounds like something off Super Trouper! Yep, I'm absolutely not kidding. They may not be exact but I hope it's tangible enough to know what ABBA songs resembles like this.  |
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Post by gary on Mar 30, 2017 12:11:31 GMT
Fair point. Here are a few of my favourites, although both albums are good all the way through, probably because the music is written by Andy Mackay of Roxy Music.
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Post by shoshin on Mar 30, 2017 22:30:02 GMT
Fair point. Here are a few of my favourites, although both albums are good all the way through, probably because the music is written by Andy Mackay of Roxy Music... One interesting aspect of Rock Follies was that punk rock arrived in between the first and second series. To 16 year olds like me, established acts suddenly looked very old hat, including both Roxy Music and Rock Follies' fictional Little Ladies. Art imitated life in a Rock Follies episode that I still remember forty years later, even though I haven't seen it since then. The girls were booked to play at a gig, but the audience was more interested in a subtly caricatured punk act called Zero. Their anthem went: 'What do we believe in? We believe in Zero'. Anarchy in the UK  Rula Lenska has been mentioned in Frida lookalike despatches. I'm not at all convinced, but it's the closest I can get to an ABBA angle.  |
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Post by gary on Mar 30, 2017 23:11:48 GMT
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Aha, someone of the same vintage and place!
Yes, I remember that too, although unlike you I have seen the series since its original broadcast. It, or rather they as there were two series, were released on video around 2001 (and since then on DVD). I watched all 12 episodes then in one mammoth session!
I think the series was very good indeed, particularly the music, although it is now a bit of a period piece. I wish I trusted my judgement more: I am not sure if it actually was good, or whether I remember it with the rose-tinted spectacles of nostalgia for my teenage years (I was 16/17 at the time). But who cares - I like it!
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Mar 31, 2017 16:40:26 GMT
The organ intro?
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Post by Liebezeit on Mar 31, 2017 23:31:03 GMT
I Am the City. I'm not surprised that Björn and Benny reused their music. It's like hearing Paul McCartney saying the 'She Loves You' refrain in The Beatles' 'All You Need is Love'. |
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Post by Liebezeit on Apr 10, 2017 1:46:47 GMT
Name that Agnetha song
This one is obvious to guess!
Hint: The main melody before the chorus ended up being in Agnetha's less known song from her well known solo album. In the song you're about to guess, Agnetha sings the melody that Eric Stewart sang.. No, it's not part of the Fältskog-Stewart album collab
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Post by Liebezeit on Apr 15, 2017 19:09:43 GMT
Way long overdue I suppose. Nobody guessed and so I have to reveal the answer for you, haha Rutger Gunnarsson - Svea Svea ABBA – The Winner Takes it All For the Sparks video: ABBA – Me and I For the Procol Harum video: ABBA – I Wonder Agnetha Fältskog – To Love |
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Apr 17, 2017 10:22:26 GMT
Right at the end of the song.
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Post by Liebezeit on Apr 17, 2017 12:24:26 GMT
Right at the end of the song. The synth pad sounds remarkably like the flute from 'Fernando' |
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Post by gary on Apr 20, 2017 8:16:31 GMT
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Post by Liebezeit on Apr 20, 2017 21:17:16 GMT
S.O.S.? |
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Post by shoshin on Apr 20, 2017 22:32:36 GMT
I can, but only as a result of the songwriter fessing up. When Debbie sings 'Dreaming, dreaming is free', it is copying 'Dancing Queen, young and sweet only'. It's clearer if you imagine it as 'Dance Queen, young sweet only'. One of the most important hook mechanisms in DQ is that 'young and sweet' repeats the same melody line as the preceding 'Dancing Queen'. This is pop magic only because of the accompanying chord change. The 'Danc-' is a major seventh but, here comes the science, the 'young' makes a briefly unsettling tritone with the changed chord's root note. This is unusual enough in popular music to stamp the passage with Benny's mark of genius, so that its influence on Dreaming can be detected like a dusted fingerprint. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 5:22:40 GMT
I was thinking of "Kisses of Fire".
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Post by gary on Apr 21, 2017 10:49:54 GMT
I can, but only as a result of the songwriter fessing up. When Debbie sings 'Dreaming, dreaming is free', it is copying 'Dancing Queen, young and sweet only'. It's clearer if you imagine it as 'Dance Queen, young sweet only'. One of the most important hook mechanisms in DQ is that 'young and sweet' repeats the same melody line as the preceding 'Dancing Queen'. This is pop magic only because of the accompanying chord change. The 'Danc-' is a major seventh but, here comes the science, the 'young' makes a briefly unsettling tritone with the changed chord's root note. This is unusual enough in popular music to stamp the passage with Benny's mark of genius, so that its influence on Dreaming can be detected like a dusted fingerprint. Ah, thanks Shoshin. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 19:39:33 GMT
^^^
Here's a direct quote from an interview with Stein and Harry:
CS: Abba’s f****** awesome. “Dreaming” is basically “Dancing Queen.” It’s a direct cop. There’s not enough (similar) notes to get sued, though.
DH: It’s too bad they were Swedish. I loved the songs and thought they were OK in performance, but that little sort of polka thing that was in there … I feel like it disturbed me.
CS: You’ll never live it down: “Debbie Harry says Abba is polka …”
DH: I sang and danced to the songs, so f*** me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 5:16:51 GMT
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Post by Liebezeit on Apr 23, 2017 22:21:07 GMT
This song, in particular, doesn't sound exactly similar (intro sequence: A, D, E, G#) to an ABBA song, but it definitely sounds vaguely familiar! They're around in the same tempo area, same kind of rhythm correspondence of the guitar (wild guess, but it's a staple of reggae songs, I suppose)... and they can be spotted at the beginning of their songs.
Apparently one of my favourite bands share the same thing; having a reggae song from one of their acclaimed albums, once you figure it out which ABBA song you can connect this to.
Tropical Loveland
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Post by shoshin on Apr 23, 2017 22:50:43 GMT
LOL Dancing Queen Oddly, the debt to Rock Your Baby is clearer on this than it is on DQ itself. It's a well produced track, did he use Polar? |
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Post by shoshin on Apr 23, 2017 23:07:42 GMT
I was thinking of "Kisses of Fire". I hear it |
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Post by shoshin on Apr 23, 2017 23:14:09 GMT
This song, in particular, doesn't sound exactly similar (intro sequence: A, D, E, G#) to an ABBA song, but it definitely sounds vaguely familiar! ... Tropical LovelandI'm getting the 'video blocked in your country' message :-( I suppose it's Tropical Loveland though? ABBA didn't really spoil us for choice when it came to reggae |
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Post by Liebezeit on Apr 23, 2017 23:21:56 GMT
This song, in particular, doesn't sound exactly similar (intro sequence: A, D, E, G#) to an ABBA song, but it definitely sounds vaguely familiar! ... Tropical LovelandI'm getting the 'video blocked in your country' message :-( I suppose it's Tropical Loveland though? ABBA didn't really spoil us for choice when it came to reggae That's right! shoshin , if you happen to have a Spotify account, I think you might try this option there; if not, oh well. That kinda happens with the record label in conflict with the digital world...  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 14:51:35 GMT
I was thinking of "Kisses of Fire". I hear it Thanks As for "Firefly", I think it was recorded at Sound Lab Studios, Hollywood. The album "Watch Out!" was recorded there and at EMI Studios, Stockholm. |
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Post by Liebezeit on May 9, 2017 0:28:51 GMT
One of the most unlikely candidates of this game since it is not as blatantly similar in terms of beat, and rhythm, as I put with the others – the only thing in common with ABBA and The Residents is that one of their chorus melody is in the C Dorian mode Mixolydian (the only problem is that The Residents went from ascending to descending, repeatedly, melodically, while ABBA does their own lyrics.. repeatedly.), so this is quite easy to guess – I had some ABBA song in my mind while I was listening to this!
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Were they like the Spinal Tap of 1970s before THE Spinal Tap came along? [though they're not exactly related] 
