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Post by Sindi on Apr 24, 2023 8:12:46 GMT
There will never be a Voyage follow up. We can only hope we get the 2 unreleased songs and JLT in full.
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Post by BAAB on Apr 24, 2023 16:57:12 GMT
I remember very lively when the badly copied versions of the Demotapes of Just Like That and I Am The City first appeared. ABBA fans went mad about them both. At that time, I don't think that the favour was all on Just Like That. To me, the line "Just Like That" sounded a bit harsh and parrot like and the song didn't flow somehow...
Then in 1993, I Am The City was released and I learned that people who were no ABBA fans liked the song. I Like it too but rarely play it. I Wonder, if it will be the same with Just Like That 🤔
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2023 17:00:39 GMT
That is why there is an interest in Just Like That. It is unreleased but if ever got released people would realise it's okay but nothing special.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2023 18:22:12 GMT
AdamDawson2003 - you are right about radio stations only playing the big, familiar hits. Smooth and Magic play a lot of ABBA - but didn't bother with any of the Voyage tracks. You will never hear a good non-UK single like Eagle or The Visitors either.
This feeds into the stats. The top 10 most streamed ABBA songs on Spotify account for 60% of all ABBA's streams. In the UK, Gold is on 6 million plus sales whereas More Gold and Voyage only about 450k each.
But I guess this is the same for all artists. It's just the big hits and any veteran act releasing an album won't get any airplay at all. Fans of other acts will feel the same.
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Post by richard on Apr 24, 2023 19:39:17 GMT
But I guess this is the same for all artists. It's just the big hits and any veteran act releasing an album won't get any airplay at all. Fans of other acts will feel the same. And that's a big a reason - sometimes very unfairly criticised, imo - why older artists have paired up with younger popular artists for recordings. Apart from anything else, the core fanbase of such older artists are dying out or perhaps too old to be much bothered anymore. That's why Tony Bennett, a great popular singer from the same era as Sinatra, for instance, and probably in his 80s at the time, recorded a couple of albums consisting of duets with Amy Winehouse, Lady Gaga, and other younger singers. Surely it was largely because of the 40-years hiatus that the Voyage album got all the attention upon it's release - regardless of its perceived quality. |
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Post by Alan on Apr 24, 2023 20:23:24 GMT
Steve Wright used to play Move On a fair bit. I heard that more than once on his show and I only listened to it on short car journeys. That’s the only example I can think of though.
I really can’t stand the fact that radio - even the BBC nationals - have a fairly restrictive playlist. You’ll hear the same old records over and over again, and then they’ll change them. Fix You by Coldplay seems to be on a lot at the moment, and not just Radio 2 but also heard it on Virgin Radio. Presumably the same old records are “serviced” to all radio stations at intervals and then changed.
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Post by Dina on Apr 25, 2023 7:20:19 GMT
They should just release everything they are sitting on while they are all still healthy enough to enjoy the reaction from fans. They know the fans just want those few songs. Be a nice closure moment before the unthinkable happens.
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Post by foreverfan on Apr 25, 2023 10:18:39 GMT
^^^ Very good point Dina; none of us are immortal... you never know it could be what they’re planning for the 50th..unlikely but never say never.....
Regarding radio, I’ve recently swapped to Greatest Hits Radio ( GHR ), from Radio 2 to follow Ken Bruce, and to play Pop Master, a daily challenge with a friend.
I must admit there does seem to be a limited amount of tracks being played, for instance I hadn’t heard David Bowie’s, Let’s Dance for ages and now it’s on everyday sometimes twice.
As with ABBA, GHR does play a lot, however as stated, it’s only the “ Gold “ hits and then only the big ones, I’ve heard DQ about 10 times or so, not that I tire, but..
Is it that these independent stations will only play Hits ? Top 40, For commercial reasons, and forget about the other 80 non single tracks as no money in it ( unsure how radio stations work, commercials mainly)..
I’ve listened for about 3 weeks Since Ken started, and as yet to hear a non single track, I sometimes forget to switch back to radio 2 ( like to try and keep up with new stuff ) so radio on for 6 hours, and nothing different, GHR only play prior 1999, so Voyage is understandable but not even the lesser hits let alone album tracks....
Such a shame the wider public doesn’t get to hear, but are they truly interested outside the dedicated fans.. wonder how many knew for instance TV , HIYS at the beginning of Voyage...not as many as we may think.....
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Post by richard on Apr 25, 2023 12:32:23 GMT
My understanding is that before it was replaced by Radio Two, the old BBC Light service played a very varied mix of music from light classics to standard songs to the latest pop hits of the day. I assume the pirate radio stations put paid to that; and now we have pop and more pop from several stations - that might as well be clones of each other - who won't play album tracks from pop artists, probably because the general listening public only want to hear familiar big hits.
Yes, as a consequence, something of the staid old 'granny' BBC disappeared, but it may also have been a mixed blessing for listeners of popular music. So the only time I've heard I Let The Music Speak on the radio, for example, is when Frida requested it during her interview with Zoë Ball on R2 when the Voyage album was released! (I like Ken Bruce, too. He played Steely Dan - one of my favourites - quite often. But no chance of his playing a Dan album track, of course - especially on the station where is now.)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2023 15:57:13 GMT
I agree with comments about radio stations playing the same old stuff. There's more variety when I set my music on my phone to shuttle. Greatest Hits Radio has a very limited range - even given their focus on 70s/80s/90s.
Voyage did get some media attention and of course that would because of the 40 year gap - and more so for the unrelated concerts of the same name.
Older artists, not just ABBA, don't get their new stuff played. ABBA only had airplay on Radio 2 for Voyage singles - ignored everywhere else.
Absolute Radio which deals in Rock/Indie/Alternative have played new songs from the current Depeche Mode and Metallica and a track from the forthcoming Foo Fighers album.
But a couple of caveats. 1) They still stick with older, well-known songs more 2) Any "veteran" act music they play are from the noughties or nineties - Depeche mode sold their albums in the 90s.
2) Older acts such as The Stranglers or Specials who released albums within past couple of years never got played. I reckon this reflects the ages of that radio station's managers.
Pop acts who have been around get no airplay at all - or mention of a new album. As stated ABBA's airplay very limited for Voyage songs.
If ABBA were to release a new album or just some new songs they wouldn't get anything like the attention of the release of Voyage - and even less airplay. They really would have to do promotions and probably prime time TV.
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Post by bennybjorn on May 22, 2023 22:39:25 GMT
justabba posted this in the Voyage Concert thread. It seems of relevance to this one, too! _ _ _ _ _ _ And this just in! A new interview with Bjorn in the netherlands... Ulvaeus has sporadic contact with the other three ABBA members, now a little less than two years ago when the new album Voyage was released. As fun and lucrative as that was, it really was the final piece. That was definitely our last album. Not our last activity, because now we have to start thinking about next year, when it will be fifty years ago that we won the Eurovision Song Contest with Waterloo.” Thanks to compatriot Loreen and her hit Tattoo, that party is at least celebrated in our own country. ,,Amazing, right? Our anniversary and the Eurovision Song Contest in Sweden coincide beautifully. Yes, that's a coincidence. I know there are people who think it's intentional, but it's not planned. I'm glad Loreen won, although unfortunately I missed it myself. I was writing that night. Although I had seen her perform in our national preliminary round, so I am familiar with her act and her song.” Oh this is perfect! This is all I need, do you think we can rent this? Björn Ulvaeus (ABBA) about Royal Theater Carré It is inevitable that ABBA will have a role in the Eurovision song contest next year. ,,Hopefully in Stockholm, our home city”, Ulvaeus gives a cross. ,, ABBA and the Eurovision Song Contest belong together and next year even more so. How are we going to do it? We have no idea yet. We're just now thinking about that. Our record company recently started talking about it. We have to do something with it, it will not be a re-release, we find that very boring. We need to be more resourceful.”They don't want to perform anymore, not even on this occasion. Or it must be the ABBAtars, that is of course possible. “We will also think about that. I am especially happy that we can celebrate this next year, it feels unreal that it has already been fifty years.”
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