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Post by richard on May 17, 2022 8:41:24 GMT
Yes, despite the technology involved, it's much like an an older artist doing a live concert comprising almost entirely their old well-known hit songs. It's ABBA nostalgia whilst eliminating the ageing process. This sounds like I'm being critical, but not really, just factual.
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Post by justabba on May 17, 2022 9:43:54 GMT
Two of the 2019 tracks are Bumblebee and I Can Be That Woman… not sure I’d want either of those in the show at the expense of big hits! As was "hit by a train " apparently... |
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Post by undertheappletree on May 17, 2022 9:45:01 GMT
Only 10 days to go, or is it 9? a pre Show for Press & VIPs My Biggest hope is that they have re-recorded, some new vocals, for some of the pre Voyage' Songs in the list. I read that there will be more interactive talking with the audience, so presumably it's Abba Now not Then.
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Post by richard on May 17, 2022 11:36:31 GMT
If Benny is ok with occasional slightly negative comments about ABBA's longevity, as mentioned, elsewhere, maybe I can say this before the Voyage show, then I'll just be glad to read all the reviews of it.
Fair enough, the ABBA members haven't had the desire, or haven't felt the need, to perform live in their older age; and perhaps a lot of ABBA fans actually prefer that this Voyage show gives them them the opportunity to see digitised versions of ABBA's younger selves rather than their older real selves now
But I do feel doubtful about the implications of this technology going forward. But it's just a general negative feeling about it on my part - I can't explain it more.
If for no other reason, I'm grateful that this Voyage show eventually led to the Voyage album. That's the big plus for me.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2022 12:11:34 GMT
I think the show is a great idea. It's entertainment, that's all. Like going to see a movie or a theatre show and at least this way, ABBA have had some actual involvement. I'm not sure why some in the media seem to be annoyed that ABBA aren't doing concerts themselves, I have elderly parents and it's not just
any mobility issues that people of a certain age may have, it's the energy levels that are lacking.
I agree Richard, the show led to the album, so whatever happens with the show, that's the big positive for me.
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Post by lamont on May 17, 2022 13:40:11 GMT
The thing is ABBA really need to pull this show off, if it is similar to ABBA in the past then they will become their own tribute act, and there are plenty of tribute bands who have managed that adequately. There has to be an emotional arc that links the show, a narrative perhaps, or ABBA embrace “ABBA The Phenomenon” and say if they perform Gimmex3 then they sample Madonna’s Hung Up, or have 3 dancers recreate the scene of Mamma Mia 2 for When I Kissed The Teacher. There is lots of room for fun and irony that ABBA could play with, hopefully they do.
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Post by Jilly C on May 17, 2022 14:11:41 GMT
They haven’t wanted to perform live together for decades because they said they cannot recapture the energy they had in their heyday. So I’m not surprised the Voyage show is of their 1977 image and energy.
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Post by Alan on May 17, 2022 16:54:49 GMT
My Biggest hope is that they have re-recorded, some new vocals, for some of the pre Voyage' Songs in the list. I don’t think they have, in fact I hope they haven’t! What’s been said so far is that it’s a mix of old live vocals (where available) and original studio-recorded vocals (presumably for tracks where no live recordings exist). If they were going to record new vocals for this, I would have expected them to have done so for, say, Just A Notion. Changes in their voices can be disguised in new songs, but not in re-recordings of old ones. |
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Post by undertheappletree on May 18, 2022 4:37:55 GMT
My Biggest hope is that they have re-recorded, some new vocals, for some of the pre Voyage' Songs in the list. I don’t think they have, in fact I hope they haven’t! What’s been said so far is that it’s a mix of old live vocals (where available) and original studio-recorded vocals (presumably for tracks where no live recordings exist). If they were going to record new vocals for this, I would have expected them to have done so for, say, Just A Notion. Changes in their voices can be disguised in new songs, but not in re-recordings of old ones. I was referring to Songs that may be included in the Set list, where there is no live recordings available. I would much prefer to hear new Vocal Recordings, in fact l would prefer to have all New Vocal Recordings, there would be no need to disguise anything. It's going to be interesting to see how they blend the Studio Voices and Live together, without some kind of manipulation, because there is a noticeable difference. But also there are 3 backing Singer's with the live Band. Like Comments above, it is probably best just to acknowledge it has Entertainment, The Rolls-Royce Abba Tribute Experience, and not over Scrutinize everything, like we tend to do here. But having said that, I think that's part of the fun; |
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Post by jjj on May 18, 2022 7:17:47 GMT
It's going to be interesting to see how they blend the Studio Voices and Live together, without some kind of manipulation, because there is a noticeable difference.
What? Am I completely stupid? My understanding was that only the vocal tracks from the well-known studio recordings (completely stripped of the original studio tracks containing the synths and acoustic instruments, played by ABBA's original studio session musicians).
I thought we were just getting the original "nude" vocals, as it were, from ABBA's well-known released versions, and then a live band would be accompanying these original nude vocals during the shows? And then also the possibility that all the original backing vocals which exist on different tracks from these same studio releases might also be mixed differently (i.e, Frida or Agnetha's original backing vocals in the original songs might be made more prominent or less prominent than they were on the original released songs' mixes).
I really thought the show was focused on playing ABBA's original studio vocal tracks, minus the original studio musicians' tracks, but with a live band playing alongside these original vocals.
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Post by jj on May 18, 2022 7:22:44 GMT
^^ That was me posting, btw.
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Post by Jibby on May 18, 2022 9:38:24 GMT
I hope it is consistent re: the vocals. It will sound off if one song is the studio recorded version and then the next song is from a live recording. And as there will be live backing singers as part of the live band, I hope they remove all vocal layerings and dubbing from the studio vocals, so it is just two vocal channels.
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Post by jj on May 18, 2022 10:16:11 GMT
I hope it is consistent re: the vocals. It will sound off if one song is the studio recorded version and then the next song is from a live recording. And as there will be live backing singers as part of the live band, I hope they remove all vocal layerings and dubbing from the studio vocals, so it is just two vocal channels.
I would certainly expect them to be consistent and use only the original studio vocals, wouldn't you?
As for the original backing vocal tracks, as well as with the two main separate tracks/channels on which both Agnetha and Frida sing the lead jointly (but still on separate tracks), it might be nice to hear a different mix of their voices on those original tracks than the mixes we've become familiar with, i.e, the voice mixes on the original final mixes of the songs as we know/knew them. For the show, they could decide to blend the original voices in a very different way, making one of the voices more prominent than we were used to hearing it, and that might be a nice change.
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Post by welshboy on May 18, 2022 10:24:29 GMT
As I have said before I am so looking forward to seeing this show. The idea of it is so new that I think it's going to blow our minds. As we can see from these posts we don't have a clue how its going to look and sound. Just get ready for the ride of our lives
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Post by foreverfan on May 18, 2022 10:40:37 GMT
I hope it won’t be a rollercoaster of ups and downs just all guns blazing Merry go round..lol
The speculation is nearly over, and you have to admire the secrecy that’s been around, apart from a few “stills” a brief clip in ISHFIY, what do we know? Practically nothing, which can be exciting or frustrating.. so well done in keeping it under wraps, personally I think it will be a fantastic light show and once you suspend the disbelief that it’s not reality, great music and it’s going to be a fun night out.. I’m filled with optimism ...
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Post by dankeepinganeyeonabba on May 19, 2022 17:51:09 GMT
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Post by dankeepinganeyeonabba on May 19, 2022 17:51:55 GMT
the boys have been busy!
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Post by Michal on May 19, 2022 19:09:51 GMT
Am I completely stupid? My understanding was that only the vocal tracks from the well-known studio recordings (completely stripped of the original studio tracks containing the synths and acoustic instruments, played by ABBA's original studio session musicians). I think Alan is right that they said it would be a mix of the original live and studio vocals. Actually, I think the live vocals would work better, as the studio recordings often have a fade-out, which is not natural in a concert setting. The question is... will we be able to tell the live and studio vocals apart, when they're stripped of everything else? Even the studio vocals will sound new to us without the instuments and all those layers of backing vocals, as you rightly pointed out. We will see... just a week to go. I'm getting terribly nervous! |
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Post by Cooper on May 19, 2022 20:03:27 GMT
It is good that they will watch it before the public on the 26th so they can make any minor adjustments. I am sure Frida and Agnetha (if she attends) are not afraid to share their views if something is not quite right that can be fixed quickly.
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Post by tagaytay on May 20, 2022 2:56:14 GMT
i wonder who are the celebrities and A listers who will be attending? British royalty apparently attended a recent Tom Cruise movie media event. Maybe they will attend the premiere too since Swedish royalty will be attending. Is it part of royal etiquette for a royal family member to be around if another European royalty comes visiting? there might be pandemonium on the red carpet. I dont think i will see any of them coming if I will be inside the arena already early. So should I wait until everybody has entered. I can imagine the layers of security and media outfits surrounding the red carpet. Us fans will be pushed out. i guess i would be lucky if I would even get a glimpse of the ABBA members and other celebrities.
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Post by Michal on May 20, 2022 13:24:57 GMT
tagaytay, are you going to the VIP opening night then? I must admit I was kind of relieved when it was revealed (nice play of words, isn't it  that the ABBA members would be attending but it would not be possible to meet them. I don't feel like fighting for a good spot by the red carpet...
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Post by Michal on May 20, 2022 13:28:32 GMT
It is good that they will watch it before the public on the 26th so they can make any minor adjustments. I am sure Frida and Agnetha (if she attends) are not afraid to share their views if something is not quite right that can be fixed quickly. I'm quite sure they have already seen it. I cannot imagine that they would just "test" it on the 26th May. The press will there, the celebrities will be there, the Royals... - the performance must be perfect or it will be torn to pieces by the media. Moreover, a day before the official premiere is a bit too late for fixing the bugs, isn't it? |
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Post by Michel on May 20, 2022 13:46:14 GMT
i wonder who are the celebrities and A listers who will be attending? British royalty apparently attended a recent Tom Cruise movie media event. Maybe they will attend the premiere too since Swedish royalty will be attending. Has it been confirmed anywhere that Swedish royalty will be attending? I can't find any news on that. |
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Post by Jinnie on May 20, 2022 14:29:28 GMT
It is good that they will watch it before the public on the 26th so they can make any minor adjustments. I am sure Frida and Agnetha (if she attends) are not afraid to share their views if something is not quite right that can be fixed quickly. I'm quite sure they have already seen it. I cannot imagine that they would just "test" it on the 26th May. The press will there, the celebrities will be there, the Royals... - the performance must be perfect or it will be torn to pieces by the media. Moreover, a day before the official premiere is a bit too late for fixing the bugs, isn't it? Frida said she is not seeing the show for the first time until the 26th |
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Post by Soo on May 20, 2022 14:31:28 GMT
i wonder who are the celebrities and A listers who will be attending? British royalty apparently attended a recent Tom Cruise movie media event. Maybe they will attend the premiere too since Swedish royalty will be attending. Has it been confirmed anywhere that Swedish royalty will be attending? I can't find any news on that. Couldn’t find anything, but Princess Anni-Frid Reuss, Dowager Countess of Plauen will be attending!! |
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Post by tagaytay on May 20, 2022 15:12:33 GMT
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Post by richard on May 20, 2022 15:45:39 GMT
I came across a podcast featuring Belinda Carlisle, during which, in addition to expressing her liking of ABBA's music, she made what I thought was an interesting point: she was intrigued by the project but also wondered if the ABBAtar show might be lacking the 'exchange of energy' that can happen between a live performer and audience. That aspect hadn't occurred to me, but I'm sure fans' enthusiasm for the show, and the live band, will create something of that vibe. But we'll soon find out from the first visitors to the show.
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Post by onlyabba4meagain on May 20, 2022 17:14:50 GMT
According to 'The Sun', (UK 'Newspaper'), yesterday, the 'Local Residents', in the area of the Venue,
have been invited to 2 Free 'Rehearsal' Concerts, of The Voyage Shows. One of them is to take place
today. The 2nd will take place on Sunday. (22nd May). I guess that the 2 Free Shows, are to reward
the Residents, for tolerating all of the noise, as the Venue was being created.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2022 17:40:25 GMT
That's interesting. So we should get some sort of feedback very soon!
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Post by dankeepinganeyeonabba on May 20, 2022 20:01:48 GMT
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that the ABBA members would be attending but it would not be possible to meet them. I don't feel like fighting for a good spot by the red carpet... 