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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 1:40:37 GMT
Well - Here we go again. Exciting claims about an ABBA Album and we don't know whether to get excited, or to dismiss it as 'Nonsense'. I really hate not knowing what is the truth... www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1138391/ABBA-new-songs-ALBUM-release-date-Benny-Bjorn-Agnetha-Anni-Frid-video-restaurant According to the UK News Paper 'The Express' - ABBA have already recorded 5 Tracks for a New Album!
At present - No other Media outlet has this 'Story'. The 'Paper is calling it an 'Exclusive'... We are told that Benny & Bjorn have already written 8 Songs for that alleged Album.
The News Paper says that 'A Source' tells them that the recorded Songs sound fantastic - just like the 'old' ABBA days... Can this really be true? Is this the real reason for the delays in releasing the '2 New Songs'? We are 'fed' so many different versions and claims about ABBA's 'Plans', that we end up praying that we are being told the truth and that we are not being mislead or even lied to by the Media. The Press etc. do like to exaggerate a lot. Apparently, the Video for one of the Songs has cost a great deal of money, due to the CGI in it. Of course ABBA, will also want Videos making for some of the other Songs too - to Promote them around the World. We are told, (in the Article), that Benny and Bjorn are being very careful with the New Songs, as they don't want to 'tarnish' ABBA's Legacy. They should just have confidence in what they can do with ABBA. After all, if ABBA's Legacy can survive 2 quite awful 'Mamma Mia!' Films, I doubt if New ABBA Songs can do any harm at all! |
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Post by abbafun on Jun 10, 2019 5:46:32 GMT
Once again...by all accounts, this story is a fabrication! Bjorn has "hinted" of a possible 3rd song, and that's the only comment that can be taken as credible to any degree. So, until "ABBA" the site makes an official announcement, as they did for the 2 new songs coming soon, I will not believe anything. This does not mean however that I am tossing out of hand completely that a new album isn't in the works, I just won't go hitching my hopes to just any old news wagon!
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Post by gazman on Jun 10, 2019 7:13:41 GMT
I think we will get rumours all the way until the songs are actually released.
The official Fan Club has been told there are only 2 songs, to date. I don't think they would be misfed information.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 8:32:12 GMT
Regarding the 'Long Wait', (for New ABBA Songs), I worry that they will take so long
to release them, that one of ABBA may die, (Old Age), and then we will be told that
'Out of respect', (for whichever ABBA Member it is), they've decided to 'shelve', the
New Songs, and never, ever release them...
NOTE -- Not that I want any of ABBA to die! I'd be very upset if any of them did.
It would be like part of my childhood had been taken away, along with many good
memories of seeing ABBA on TV etc.
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Post by foreverfan on Jun 10, 2019 9:44:40 GMT
Don't we all love the rumours really 🤗
Its exciting news one way or the other, at least it keeps us interested and talking .. and what if !! A new Album ..
if not, what we haven't had can't miss...
Cross those fingers, and carry on waiting, I hope to be alive let alone any of ABBA ..lol😂
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Post by richard on Jun 10, 2019 10:32:50 GMT
If it's true, I can understand B&Bs desire to try and limit attention while the the songs are being recorded.
But, on the other hand, their reluctance to clearly confirm it makes me think newspapers are being windup merchants, as per usual
Hope I'm wrong, of course.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 13:21:50 GMT
Benny has given an Interview, to Alex Hartelius, from the Swedish News Paper 'Aftonbladet'.
In it he totally denies 'The Express' claims. He says that we will get 2 New ABBA Songs only.
However, part of the reasons for the 'New Album' rumours, are Benny & Bjorn themselves. I've
seen them say that we will get 3 New ABBA Songs. I've also seen Bjorn say that it could be
4 - or more. With the delays also, it is no wonder that rumours appear about ABBA 'secretly'
recording an entire New Album.
Here is a Translation of Benny's 'Aftonbladet' Interview. I've used Google Translate on it, which
is why it reads rather oddly, in English, but you can see that he is saying that 'The Express'
claims are nonsense...
BENNY'S 'AFTONBLADET' INTERVIEW:
Benny Andersson denies the new ABBA rumors
"It's completely wrong"
It has previously been reported that ABBA will release two new songs.
But according to the site Express, it should in fact be about an entire album.
Something that Benny Andersson denies.
- It is completely wrong, you can write it, he says to Nöjesbladet.
Last year, the news came that the ABBA members were reunited to record two new songs, "Don't shut me down" and
"I still have faith in you".
The plan was to release them from the beginning in 2018, but since then the launch has been postponed twice.
- The songs will definitely not be released before the summer, possibly after, said ABBA's manager Görel Hanser to the Daily Star
in January.
Source: Brand new album
But according to the site Express, it should not just be two new songs, but a completely new album.
- Benny has written eight new songs, so far. Five of them are pre-recorded, say a source to the site and continue:
- The two B's (Benny and Björn red's note) have been careful with their official statements so far. But this and more is what happens
behind the scene. Benny is a bit paranoid and does not want to destroy the group's musical heritage. But he has nothing to be afraid
of, it's absolutely amazing songs.
Benny Andersson denies
But that there would be a brand new album with ABBA songs is something that is denied by Benny Andersson.
- It is completely wrong, you can write it, he says to Nöjesbladet.
So that's not true?
- No, it does not. Hello Hello.
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Post by foreverfan on Jun 10, 2019 15:54:53 GMT
So it's all lies🤔...
im sticking to my adage of wait and see.. I'm optimistic, but also realistic if one can be !!!...
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Post by josef on Jun 10, 2019 16:35:29 GMT
Whatever the truth is, ABBA would be mad not to record and release a full new album if the quality is still there. Life's so short and it could be their last hurrah! I mean, why on earth not? Music is music. It doesn't matter that they're not in the first flush of youth and we're not going to see them bouncing around on stage- the digital versions of ABBA can do that!
I just really want to hear the two new songs. I'm not even especially bothered about the avatars. I just want to HEAR them again before they (and I) die....that's the blunt truth.
Time is short. Crack on, ABBA!
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Post by Michal on Jun 10, 2019 16:46:44 GMT
josef , exactly! Just to hear Agnetha and Frida together again is a wonderful prospect and it is something I stopped dreaming about long time ago. I don't need an ABBA tour, I don't even need the videos. What would be nice though (and I think it's not out of question) - if they sat down together somewhere and reminisced together about the ABBA years… I mean, we've had enough of documentaries were we see them interviewed individually. Let's get them together in one place, they can chat together, preferably in Swedish so there's no language barrier for them (especially A&F) and in the end, Benny can run through a song on the piano and they can hum a bit of Thank You For The Music together… That would be a wonderful way to end their remarkable career.
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Post by Zeebee on Jun 10, 2019 20:52:06 GMT
I think if Benny and Bjorn were REALLY protective of ABBA's legacy they wouldn't have given the dreadful Mamma Mia! films the green light. The stage musical I've never seen. I'm sure it's infinitely better. Anyway...my hope now is for one last ABBA album. I wish this with all my heart. But a couple of new songs would thrill me. I'm simply not interested in hearing Colin Firth or Meryl Streep butchering ABBA's songs via terrible film musicals. It's always mostly been about the originals for me. I'm an 'ABBA purist', I suppose. I saw the stage show, and yes, it was better than the movies. But I wouldn't say Meryl Streep butchered any songs. She certainly didn't butcher My Love, My Life in the second movie. That was a wonderful scene. |
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Post by gazman on Jun 11, 2019 13:56:51 GMT
We should respect the reason why ABBA decided to go back into the recording studio, which is to provide a couple of new songs to complement the ABBAtars project. There have clearly been issues with progressing that project, which I'm sure ABBA themselves are frustrated about. It's quite understandable if they shy away from talking of release dates if there still might be some delays ahead on parts of the project.
I'm reading lots of comments in various places, such as 'they should forget the avatars and just release the songs', 'Benny should stop work with BAO and concentrate on ABBA', and 'they could have recorded an album by now'.
We need to be patient until everything is ready. We must never forget that they don't actually owe us a thing.
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Post by josef on Jun 11, 2019 15:17:27 GMT
Her version of The Winner Takes It All was horrendous. Histrionic. As for My Love, My Love they destroyed it by butchering the lyrics and making it so schmaltzy it's untrue. I'd actually go to the stage show, I'm sure it's a lot of fun. But the films are truly abysmal. |
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Post by richard on Jun 11, 2019 15:57:17 GMT
I wonder how many are looking forward to these two new songs - and a new album if it happened - hoping they will be like the ABBA of old, give or take? And be disappointed if not, no matter how good they are in a different style?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 18:58:44 GMT
We should respect the reason why ABBA decided to go back into the recording studio, which is to provide a couple of new songs to complement the ABBAtars project. There have clearly been issues with progressing that project, which I'm sure ABBA themselves are frustrated about. It's quite understandable if they shy away from talking of release dates if there still might be some delays ahead on parts of the project. While I respect and love ABBA for their music I can't agree with this. The decision to record new music was just the most profane one: marketing, i.e. money. At least that obviously is the case for B&B, however, we shouldn't forget that A+F also agreed with this policy. It's a decision I factually must accept, but that's all.
Apart from that, who do you mean is shying away from talking about dates etc? After all it's B&B who continue teasing the public with almost each new interview. It's them saying possibly, maybe, perhaps... If they don't know, they either should stick to one common version or simply shut up until they can or want to tell something definite.
I for one am really disappointed by ABBA and just feel angry. I feel no joy anymore, I just feel fooled again and again. And I certainly will think about buying anything ABBA-related again at least three times before I will do so again, including any new songs.
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Post by josef on Jun 11, 2019 20:20:14 GMT
Why on earth should you feel angry? The members of ABBA haven't done anything wrong. In life, things go wrong...that's the way the cookie crumbles. It's not their fault there have been problems with the avatars. That's a tech thing and humans make mistakes, no one is infallible. I'm as keen as the next person to hear any new songs but to me this will be a bonus. I never expected to ever hear a new ABBA song in my life! And when I do I'll be extremely grateful. I don't honestly think either Björn or Benny have meant to tease any of us in a mean way, they're probably as frustrated as us fans.
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Post by Liebezeit on Jun 11, 2019 20:37:18 GMT
abbafan2018 - I do share the same sentiment that the BBs should stick to a common version regarding the new songs.
It is a confusing thing to read what they've said as I switch between Express and Aftonbladet. Benny says "no albums", but Björn says "yes, there will be a new album"... New album? New songs? I'd think they would do new songs instead and leave the new albums well alone until they see a success and try to develop something nice for their album
But as Josef said it's not really something to get angry about just because of the evil marketing and so much teasing. I think ABBA are the victims of it themselves and the people who made a contract for them did so much to stretch the dates further. Perhaps I read one time that the band had some stipulation in their contract that's delaying it and admittedly the band have no control over it. I think it was Benny who said it.
You could just boycott ABBA's company, in other words, not participate in their "money making master plans" - it's the safe way of saying "I'm tired of waiting, I quit" without causing much discord.
(In worst circumstances, a protest against Polar Music or Simon Fuller, God forbid.)
As for what the song's arrangement will sound like: I do hope ABBA will revamp their style to adapt to the new world of popular music, just for the new songs. like they were approaching a synthpop direction for The Visitors after their disco phase
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Post by Alan on Jun 12, 2019 16:57:09 GMT
Why on earth should you feel angry? The members of ABBA haven't done anything wrong. In life, things go wrong...that's the way the cookie crumbles. It's not their fault there have been problems with the avatars. That's a tech thing and humans make mistakes, no one is infallible. I'm as keen as the next person to hear any new songs but to me this will be a bonus. I never expected to ever hear a new ABBA song in my life! And when I do I'll be extremely grateful. I don't honestly think either Björn or Benny have meant to tease any of us in a mean way, they're probably as frustrated as us fans. I agree with most of this, and I certainly don’t think anyone has the right to be angry about it (but then again, some fans will as they probably think ABBA owe them - and only them - the new songs just because they bought ABBA Gold 20 times ). The ABBAtar things I really couldn’t give a damn about and if that’s one of the hold-ups for the new songs, it’s not particularly a great reason. Björn and Benny’s differing outlook I do find a bit bizarre. Björn has blatantly teased the audience. Asked about rumours of a new album he says “yes, I heard that too” but doesn’t say anything else. I know that whether you confirm or deny rumours, you can’t win. Denying it will still have some thinking you’re lying. That was a tease though. But it’s Benny that, as ever, nicely puts the kybosh on anything and kills it stone dead. Björn once said he was a pessimist but it seems to be Benny filling that description these days. If you say you’re going to release something at a certain time and then don’t, then of course people will start hoping for more. But he has to squash it with a “how on earth could you have thought that? How silly of you” attitude. And didn’t he once say “there’s nothing else in the vaults” well before the Like An Angel medley surfaced? And later the alternate mix of Andante Andante. And then allow Carl Magnus Palm to hear it all so he could write yet another book? I’m not impatient, I can wait, but if there is just the two songs then get them out on YouTube. I couldn’t even give a flying fig for a physical format. Let’s just hear them if that really is all they have to offer. |
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Post by richard on Jun 12, 2019 17:32:33 GMT
Some great points, there. And if Benny and Bjorn want the publc's money for their projects, I don't think they can expect other than some negative reactions over recent events.
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Post by josef on Jun 12, 2019 18:08:18 GMT
I very much doubt they want or need our money but I know what you mean. They could handle it better but they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. Being perfectionists (something I think we really should keep in mind) I'm sure they want everything to be just right. It would be nice to see video(s) to the songs but it's not essential. I guess they want the ABBAtar-tour to be perfect? I'd be over the moon if there was a new album in the pipeline so I'm keeping my fingers, legs and everything else crossed. We should also remember things are very different now to back in the early 80's when they quietly slipped away. Now the media really is voracious. ..pouncing on anything and making things up. It must be mind-boggling trying to deal with it all and not say the wrong thing. I give the guys a break. ..it must be tricky. Benny does come off as a bit of a grump sometimes but hey the guy is in in his 70's! They all are (apart from baby Agnetha haha).
Incidentally, I hear Björn is on breakfast television (UK) tomorrow morning so maybe he'll clear a few things up? Although I'm not holding my breath! It's likely he's just promoting that Mamma Mia! The party thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 21:46:32 GMT
Well, surely they don't need our money, but yet they want it. Why on earth were new songs needed for that tour? Strange idea anyway to mix songs from today while all the rest is based on 79. And in the past, what's about all the compilations etc. being released with just a tiny new, unpublished bit on it? I also tend to doubt that some "leaks" of alternate mixes really were leaks. ABBA aren't just holy and innocent, they know the business. How many rumors about reunions have been fired by themselves in the past? I think it's very naive to believe they don't understand how the media works.
As I have written before: I must accept their decisions to tie the songs with the tour, but I don't have to share this opinion. I think it's a huge waste and it's an even bigger mistake to either not correct a decision when you see it doesn't work or manage it at least professionally and especially honestly. The latter point is what makes me angry, it's not that I say "I want the songs" now. They could even shelve them away like they did with others in the past.
I also remind of the original statement about the new songs. They gave the impression the songs were just a nice side effect of the tour and emphasized the joy they had. There was no word about the songs being recorded just because of the tour. That the recordings weren't done just for fun about doing music together was admitted only later in some interview.
They don't owe me any songs, but even though I'm just a single anonymous fan somewhere in the world, being loyal to them for more than 40 years though, I expect this kind of respect at least: honesty and not just being treated as a marketing object. After all it was all of us who made them big.
I will continue to love ABBA's music until I die, but for the rest I guess it will be just a business relationship for me, simple as that.
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Post by foreverfan on Jun 13, 2019 8:38:57 GMT
Bjorn has just been on UK breakfast TV.. mainly about MM the Party.. of course...
He was a little hesitant to talk about anything else.. quite vague in fact , only mentioning briefly the new tracks November now !!!!
The wait goes on....
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Post by richard on Jun 13, 2019 10:59:34 GMT
Disappointing. They could give us the two new songs now, and write and record two new-new songs for November! Plenty of time! Just a thought - not asking much!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 13:40:15 GMT
Yes, the New ABBA Songs, (however many there are), are now delayed until November. We have to be patient, as we have no power or control over these matters. Getting angry or upset helps no-one. We have to be positive... However, it really is Benny & Bjorn's fault, that there is so much confusion, as to how many New Songs we are getting. In Interviews, I've seen them saying that we are to definitely get a 3rd New ABBA Song. In another Interview, Bjorn said that it could be '4 or more'. It is no wonder that we've ended up with speculation that we are to get an entire Album, and that just 2 New Songs somehow seems not enough, after all the 'teasing' and the forever changing release Months... Here is a 'Metro' Article confirming the 'new' delay: metro.co.uk/2019/06/13/abba-star-bjorn-ulvaeus-u-turns-third-mamma-mia-film-confirms-new-music-will-drop-november-9932090/ In the meantime 'Radio Times' has done a 'Feature' where they look for 'evidence' and 'clues' that there may be a 3rd 'Mamma Mia!' Film. For some reason 'Mamma Mia!' now seems to over-shadow everything to do with ABBA. It is as if ABBA Songs were only 'lent' to ABBA, and they really 'belong' to the 'Mamma Mia!' Films - and the several Actors who cannot even sing! (I'm not saying that none of the Actors, in the Films can Sing, but a good many of them can't). The 1st Film made over $600 Million and Film 2 made just under $400 Million. We will see how much Film 3 makes. If it is ever made... www.radiotimes.com/news/film/2019-06-13/is-there-going-to-be-a-mamma-mia-3/ |
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Post by foreverfan on Jun 13, 2019 13:40:25 GMT
Also mentioned to the relief of most...
NO Mamma Mia 3..
but weve heard so many many conflicting rumours it's now hard to know what to believe 🙄
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Post by foreverfan on Jun 13, 2019 14:31:37 GMT
I'd have a good bet now that the single/s will be released at Christmas 2019 now, trying for that elusive Christmas number 1🙄
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Post by Michal on Jun 13, 2019 17:25:32 GMT
Also mentioned to the relief of most... NO Mamma Mia 3.. but weve heard so many many conflicting rumours it's now hard to know what to believe 🙄 We've heard so many times that Mamma Mia 2 would never happen that I wouldn't count on No.3 being entirely out of question… As for the Christmas release of the new song, I'm afraid you're right... |
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Post by Zeebee on Jun 13, 2019 20:45:08 GMT
Her version of The Winner Takes It All was horrendous. Histrionic. As for My Love, My Love they destroyed it by butchering the lyrics and making it so schmaltzy it's untrue. I'd actually go to the stage show, I'm sure it's a lot of fun. But the films are truly abysmal. I should've also mentioned that she (Meryl Streep) didn't butcher Slipping Through My Fingers in the first movie. |
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Post by josef on Jun 13, 2019 21:20:52 GMT
I can do without Meryl Streep or any of that lot murdering sublime ABBA songs.
Anyway....so it's November now. I saw Björn on breakfast tv. I was quite shocked to hear the hologram tour thing is now off?! 😲 I wonder why? Perhaps they've realised there might not be a demand for a virtual concert? People do want to see and hear the real thing. And what happened to that tv special featuring other artists talking about and performing some ABBA songs? Hopefully no one involved in the atrocious Mamma Mia! films.
So it looks like the end of the year now. I haven't felt this much anticipation since 2004 waiting for Agnetha to release If I Thought You'd Ever Change Your Mind!
I noticed Björn talked mainly about this O2 The Party thing. How "everybody can enjoy it." REALLY, Björn? EVERYBODY? Have you seen the price of the tickets? It would seem for some famous people wealth and fame divorces them from the everyday reality of life for most people.
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Post by Alan on Jun 13, 2019 21:49:38 GMT
November (or even December) isn’t too bad really considering it’s June now and we’ve known about this for 14 months. However, I start to wonder if it will even happen then. Like Brexit, it keeps getting put off and you start to wonder if it will happen at all.
*Yawn*. Party? Remind me to have half my brain removed if I ever consider that to be a good idea.
As for Mamma Mia itself, has that not been done to death? I’m with Josef. I don’t really want anyone else singing those songs. If it’s not ABBA themselves then I don’t really want to hear it. Having said that, it was fun hearing new versions of more obscure album tracks in the second film. Well, fun for a few times and then it’s back to the original versions.
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