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Post by Roxanne on Sept 7, 2016 0:32:36 GMT
They have come up with the goods this time for sure Double LP, Limited Edition Coloured Vinyl Singles Box Set, Picture Discs - we are being spoiled A limited edition 7” box set will feature the four singles from the album – the worldwide No.1 smash hit ‘Dancing Queen’, along with ‘Money, Money, Money’, ‘Knowing Me, Knowing You’ and ‘Fernando’ – all on coloured vinyl. This box will only be available through ABBA The Museum Shop and D2C shops. ‘Dancing Queen’, ‘Money, Money, Money’, ‘Knowing Me, Knowing You’ and ‘Fernando’ will be released separately as a limited-edition picture disc. Finally, a 2LP, half-speed mastered, 45rpm cut of the original album will be released. This rare and specialised technique transforms difficult to cut high-end frequencies into relatively easy to cut mid-range frequencies. The result is a cut with excellent high frequency response and very solid and stable stereo images. In short, half-speed mastering produced a master of the highest quality that enables the pressing plant to produce a superlative record. The album reissue will include new liner notes including a brand new interview with Michael B Tretow, ABBA’s acclaimed producer and “fifth member”. All products will be released October 7th 2016. www.abbathemuseum.com/en/shop-en
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 8:25:26 GMT
There does not seem to be any 'unreleased' Music in the 40th Anniversary Edition of 'Arrival'. It is a great pity, as there are other versions of 'Dancing Queen' & 'Fernando' etc., that Benny & Bjorn will not allow us to have. They don't think that 'Alternative Versions' are important, so they don't think that 'The Fans' should have them. It is all rather sad, when you consider how other Acts - The Beatles, Queen, Fleetwood Mac etc. try to give their Fans as much from 'The Vaults' as possible.
The Official ABBA Site says this:,
ABBA’s Arrival Lands Once Again With Exciting 40th-Anniversary Reissues
Celebrating its 40th anniversary this year, ABBA’s Arrival has been hailed by many as “the ultimate ABBA album”. Their third No.1 at home in Sweden, it also took the group to the top of the charts in 10 countries, including England, Germany and New Zealand, while also seeing ABBA enter the US Top 20 for the first (but not the last!) time in their career.
Establishing the much-loved four-piece as one of the world’s most popular bands, the album also yielded some of ABBA’s biggest and most well-known hits, ‘Dancing Queen’, ‘Knowing Me, Knowing You’, and ‘Money, Money, Money’.
To celebrate the album’s original October 1976 release, Polar Music will be releasing a number of anniversary reissues, including a collectors’ box set, and a half-speed mastered 45rpm pressing of the original album.
A limited edition 7” box set will feature the four singles from the album – the worldwide No.1 smash hit ‘Dancing Queen’, along with ‘Money, Money, Money’, ‘Knowing Me, Knowing You’ and ‘Fernando’ – all on coloured vinyl. This box will only be available through ABBA The Museum Shop and D2C shops.
‘Dancing Queen’, ‘Money, Money, Money’, ‘Knowing Me, Knowing You’ and ‘Fernando’ will be released separately as a limited-edition picture disc.
Finally, a 2LP, half-speed mastered, 45rpm cut of the original album will be released. This rare and specialised technique transforms difficult to cut high-end frequencies into relatively easy to cut mid-range frequencies. The result is a cut with excellent high frequency response and very solid and stable stereo images. In short, half-speed mastering produced a master of the highest quality that enables the pressing plant to produce a superlative record. The album reissue will include new liner notes including a brand new interview with Michael B Tretow, ABBA’s acclaimed producer and “fifth member”.
All products will be released October 7th 2016.
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Post by Alan on Sept 7, 2016 16:27:20 GMT
It's the way the music industry is going now, it's all about coloured vinyl and picture discs. They're not really interested in much else as they don't make much profit from CDs.
It's good that it's not going to be boring black vinyl. I imagine the double vinyl album will include the original album on one disc (as it's quite short anyway - is it roughly 16 minutes per side?) and the second album will be the six bonus tracks as included on the deluxe CD issue. Either that or they're going to split it so that there are four songs per side, but that would leave Tiger and Arrival stranded on the second disc.
Haven't made up my mind - they could rise in value in future and attract ridiculous prices on eBay. Even if I wouldn't sell, it would be nice to have something that was sought-after.
Edit: According to the Museum site, the vinyl album is just the ten tracks, split into threes or twos. A bit unnecessary when it's such a short album anyway
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Post by Ginger Spice on Sept 7, 2016 23:20:52 GMT
Edit: According to the Museum site, the vinyl album is just the ten tracks, split into threes or twos. A bit unnecessary when it's such a short album anyway It's 45 rpm instead of the standard 33 1/3 rpm for LPs, which means there is less room on each side. Some people on Facebook were saying that 45 rpm makes for better sound quality (I don't know anything about rpms myself, except that singles are usually 45 and albums 33 1/3), but I'm sure it's not coincidence that issuing it as a double album gives them reason to charge a higher price.
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Post by shoshin on Sept 7, 2016 23:56:47 GMT
Edit: According to the Museum site, the vinyl album is just the ten tracks, split into threes or twos. A bit unnecessary when it's such a short album anyway It's 45 rpm instead of the standard 33 1/2 rpm for LPs.. 33 1/3 Sorry for nitpicking, I can't help myself
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Post by Alan on Sept 8, 2016 6:42:43 GMT
Oh yes, it does state 45rpm in both Roxanne's and Colin's posts, I missed that.
I think the higher price reason that Daniel/gingerspice mentions is another reason though. The music industry has done extremely well to survive MP3, and over-priced vinyl is the perfect way to do this.
As I said in another topic, £50 for a box of four coloured-vinyl singles (in sleeves that are probably rubbish scans of the original artwork) should please the fans with deep pockets, but not me. I'll stick with my box of 40 black singles in the same rubbish scans, at least that was a bit better value for money.
Edit: £34 in uDiscover for the boxed set is much better than £50 in the Museum, so despite what I said earlier above, I'm getting it!
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Post by chron on Sept 8, 2016 22:29:41 GMT
Edit: According to the Museum site, the vinyl album is just the ten tracks, split into threes or twos. A bit unnecessary when it's such a short album anyway It's 45 rpm instead of the standard 33 1/3 rpm for LPs, which means there is less room on each side. Some people on Facebook were saying that 45 rpm makes for better sound quality The one album that I have that was offered as a limited edition 45 rpm double vinyl version alongside the standard single disc 33 1/3 version - Fade Out by Loop - indeed sounds excellent.
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Post by Alan on Sept 9, 2016 21:56:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 22:13:34 GMT
I wonder how the "brand new interview" with Tretow mentioned on the website came about. As I understand it, after his stroke he's almost lost his faculty of speech and most of his memory, sadly.
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Post by Alan on Sept 10, 2016 11:31:28 GMT
The other question mark in that SuperDeluxeEdition blog is that the 7" picture discs are mentioned as only being available from the uDiscover store. I assumed if these weren't limited edition that they would be available more widely.
(The picture discs are limited of course - I'm guessing they'll only be available for a limited time - but there's no actual issue limit as there is for the box).
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Post by chron on Sept 10, 2016 15:05:49 GMT
I wonder how the "brand new interview" with Tretow mentioned on the website came about. As I understand it, after his stroke he's almost lost his faculty of speech and most of his memory, sadly. Christ, that's awful. I was aware that he'd suffered a stroke, but had no idea of the extent to which he'd been incapacitated by it.
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Post by josef on Sept 10, 2016 15:21:00 GMT
Me neither. I assumed he'd been very poorly but had recovered. His contribution to the ABBA sound cannot be underestimated.
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Post by WATERLOO on Sept 10, 2016 20:53:48 GMT
Haha, it's probably the worst way to start over here at this place but I just have to share the rant I posted over at the old/other place. As expected, these releases are a major let-down. Why would anybody be interested in a double LP-set of Arrival if the original had not been one? Why would someone buy the single-releases, considering we had re-releases on Vinyl of both the album and the singles. Seriously, if B&B don't want anything else to be released, may it be. But these constant re-releases of things we all own multiple times really annoys me as it is not a treat for the fans but a rather mean way to milk the few remaining people who closely follow the group decades after their separation, as it is rather unlikely that the average fan will go for such an expensive vinyl-release.
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Post by 1974 on Sept 10, 2016 21:35:28 GMT
I wonder how the "brand new interview" with Tretow mentioned on the website came about. As I understand it, after his stroke he's almost lost his faculty of speech and most of his memory, sadly. He is better now, but he had to learn how to speak again. There was an interview with him in his home on tv, last year. He doesn´t remember the years before the stroke.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 21:37:40 GMT
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Post by Alan on Sept 10, 2016 23:28:57 GMT
As expected, these releases are a major let-down. Why would anybody be interested in a double LP-set of Arrival if the original had not been one? Well, it could possibly be the best-sounding ABBA vinyl due to the wider groove, the half-speed mastering and the 45rpm format (all of which apparently enhance sound) but it really depends on how good the remastering is in the first place. There's a poor record on ABBA remasters so far, as we all know. I love the contradictions in modern music buying. On the one hand you have MP3 which, though rubbish sound quality, is more convenient than any physical format. Then on the other hand, vinyl, that dinosaur of a format that's made the most improbable comeback ever (well, apart from Kate Bush performing live again). And now it's become even more inconvenient than it ever was by having what were once single-disc albums now split over two. And you have to get up and turn the record over not once but three times! The music industry has done a brilliant job at surviving. For years, they convinced us to replace our vinyl records with CDs that apparently had much better sound quality, and now they're telling us the reverse, and selling vinyl for double or three times the price. Next they'll be telling us that, actually, cassettes have the best sound quality...
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Post by foreverfan on Sept 11, 2016 7:57:09 GMT
I haven't bought anything for years, not even The Vistors, with " Twinkling" , it's a personal thing really, I guess it's up to the individual, would we be all moaning if they hadn't released anything since " Gold" I expect the answer is yes. of course I'd love remixes, something new, I'd be first in the Q, but the odd snippet on a reissued album, not for me. there are loads of people who " collect " so for them, I guess this is why it is being released, after all not many will be released? Each to there own.
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Post by Alan on Sept 11, 2016 8:29:29 GMT
Have you heard From A Twinkling Star at all, Graham? I just had a look on YouTube for you to see it if was on there, and although there are several, each one then says "this video is not available" when I go into it. I'm going in from the mobile site which I know can sometimes make a difference.
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Post by Alan on Sept 11, 2016 8:49:15 GMT
Not even released yet and the coloured vinyl boxed set has already found its way to eBay! A UK seller has it for £60 plus £7.50 postage. I'm assuming they've worked out eBay and PayPal charges and that they'll still make a worthwhile profit from it. Can't see it selling until the uDiscover and Museum sites have sold out, unless anyone's really stupid.
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Post by foreverfan on Sept 11, 2016 11:00:58 GMT
Hi Alan, yes I've heard " twinkling" a few times, to be honest it was just Ok for me, I actually think LAAPTMR, is the perfect result, I remember on first hearing, it actually brought tears to my eyes. i guess like when Dreamworld and I Am The City, was released in full form, I was really interested, and bought as much as I could, but nothing has peaked that interest since. Now if that DQ , Colin/ onlyabba4me posted was released, that might tempt me..
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Post by Alan on Sept 11, 2016 12:55:52 GMT
Yes, I did try to click on what Colin posted but it came up "this video is not available" - again, not sure if it's because I'm using the mobile app.
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Post by maxisaxi on Sept 16, 2016 21:29:01 GMT
Alan just to let yo know the coloured vinyl box set is LIMITED TO 2000 releases. once gone gone, also ARRIVAL RELEASED DELUXE EDITION 2DVD/CD ALSO.I ordered everything from UDiscover and they charged me 42 pounds postage to NZ. But it comes by COURIER POST, so at least it will be here within 5 days rather than 21-24. MAXISAXI
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Post by maxisaxi on Sept 16, 2016 21:33:53 GMT
DOUBLE DVD/CD at ABBA Musuem but I will be ordering elsewhere due to there shocking postage prices, can't understand how they can get away with it
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Post by tagaytay on Sept 17, 2016 1:58:38 GMT
Next they'll be telling us that, actually, cassettes have the best sound quality...
well, actually, for some the holy grail of superior sound quality is reel to reel tape, a poor copy of which is a compact cassette tape.
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Post by HOMETIME on Sept 17, 2016 11:25:42 GMT
uDiscover has sold out of the picture discs. Anyone who thinks they might still like to buy some, will now have to use the Museum shop.
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Post by Alan on Sept 17, 2016 17:43:24 GMT
Is the coloured vinyl box still available or has that sold out as well?
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Post by HOMETIME on Sept 17, 2016 20:41:10 GMT
Still available.
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Post by Alan on Sept 17, 2016 22:04:43 GMT
So much for the so-called limited edition box then! Fewer picture discs must have been produced?
No regrets though. The box was a bit of an unnecessary extravagance for me, but I don't have any ABBA on coloured vinyl. Presumably ABBA fans aren't that interested in coloured vinyl.
The picture discs are on eBay at £8.49 each plus £2 postage. However, four of each have apparently been sold in the last 24 hours and they're down to the last ones.
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Post by HOMETIME on Sept 18, 2016 12:17:37 GMT
So much for the so-called limited edition box then! Fewer picture discs must have been produced? Well, not exactly. It just means that, of the allocation given to uDiscover, the picture discs sold faster than the box set. I trust them when they say only 2,000 have been prepared. It just means that, as of now, they haven't managed 2,000 people to part with their cash. Both items seem to be still available at the Museum shop. Maybe it's down to offering too many expensive choices? Because there was only one option with the Frida SGO box, people didn't get to dither as much and so it was snapped up in jig time. This time around, people are faced with six different items: picture discs x 4; box set; vinyl.
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Post by Ginger Spice on Sept 18, 2016 22:45:49 GMT
I understand making things limited, but especially with ABBA over any other group/artist I've been a fan of, the fans with money always snatch everything up so quickly and me, a broke college student, can never keep up. I would have loved a picture disc but even at a cheap price, I'd have to wait until Christmas to even think about ordering something like that. (Especially since I'd be importing). I wish they could come up with a number of limited editions to where they won't sell out right away, but they can still sell them all, just over a longer period of time. The main problem with the situation is the greedy people who snatch the stuff up just to sell it for 10x the original price. It also makes me feel like I have to stay on top of what's being reissued, which is annoying, because you could be unaware of a reissue until it's already sold out.
I guess that's the upside of the constant releases though, if you miss something, there will be some other reissue down the line. Many fans who already have everything complain about the constant reissues, but when you're a newer fan, it's actually kind of nice.
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