In the UK, it really boils down to 3 albums for different reasons.
1. Greatest Hits vol 1.. extremely big seller for the time, very memorable gatefold sleeve, 11 weeks at number 1. Downside.. well truthfully not really a Greatest Hits, as many tracks never a single and rarely heard.
2. Arrival, possibly the best candidate, iconic, again memorable cover, most remember the one with the " helicopter on"" , had the biggest hits, DQ, KMKY, MMM, 10 weeks at number one, great seller.hung around for 90weeks.
3. Gold, enough said really 5.5 million sold, 8 weeks at number 1, over 800 weeks in the top 100, full of hits.
That all said with 2 being greatest hits I have to go for Arrival, to answer your question, a world class break through for the time, full of great tracks, such an iconic album cover and ABBA at their peak musically and dare I say physically, the white jump suits, the helicopter, nearly everything was right for that album, potentially only one or two odd tracks depending on your own taste, Dum Dum Diddle and title track Arrival , otherwise near perfection.
But all said and done most people other than "us" would vote for Gold.
Last Edit: Sept 16, 2017 11:05:56 GMT by foreverfan
^^^thanks Colin, totally understand the frustration, especially when the facts are there in black and white, it's becoming socially more and more popular to print fake news, and it's becomes increasingly more difficult to know what to believe.
I just find it incredible that someone somewhere is basically to lazy to look into the facts that are presented, let alone not acknowledge that they will look into it..
Its down to people like your good self that accumulate facts and figures that give us a more realistic view and when it suits they ask you!!!!, hard to believe it doesn't work both ways .. thanks for all your hard work.
I guess the thing that aggravates me the most, regardless of who , is that the information is known, but not acted upon, why?
Again, many thanks for the facts and figures, so close to being in the official top 75, would have been nice if it's 800th week was in the official chart.
Another why? Why isn't the top 100 officially recognised? Top 75 seems very strange figure after all theses years, I know initially it was to separate out the compilation albums, but now surely there's enough albums to compile a official top 100, after all they have had the figures for years...
Last Edit: Sept 2, 2017 11:39:26 GMT by foreverfan
^^^ I thought this back in May in a previous post..
its looking logical, most of the "new" songs will be on that album anyhow, so it's going to be easy to re promote it, here in the UK it's been largely overlooked since its initial release, and brief return in 1999, since then nothing really. It has sold in the region of 500,000, probably less, so a long way of Golds 5.1 million again good potential to promote again, It might even peak higher than 13, possibly a top 10 or even a miracle ABBAs 10th number album.
all will come clear closer to the time, and I might be miles off and nothing of the sort will happen, but here in the UK , Gold is still selling around 1000 to 2000 a week, but hasn't troubled the top 75 for a little while now, that will change of course when the new film gets released. Of course there will be a MM2 album...so perhaps a lot of chart action to come...
as with everything we will will have to wait, but should be fun speculating...
Interesting times .... again... this new reality show, which we have now not heard a lot of? And MM2....
another Gold complication... or should I say More Gold, as that will have those other " hits" on, so the album is virtually there..emmm
I had the exact same thoughts back in May.... I think we could be seeing a big promotion for More Gold, after all the Album is already to go , and Gold will ride along with it having those that have to be in the film , like MM, DQ ST... we shall see....
I don't have all the correct details, however it's to do with demographics and streaming..
demographically Bucks/the Fizz have a 'older' fan base, very much like Steps, but politely , 'older again' who don't stream, and rarely buy, and to chart these days in the UK, you need to stream millions . Even ABBA would struggle , Agnetha's last batch of singles failed to chart in the official top 75 in the UK, even with all the hype and radio 2 airplay, DYPA, even made number one on radio 2 airplay chart, but because of no sales and little streaming didn't even make the top 100/200.
Bucks/Fizz , have a very 'them' sound, but a mediocre track, so airplay will be limited, the album has a better chance.
by the way, again even with all the promotion, SOAH , by. Steps only got to 173 and that's far more superior.
The Fizz.. is the new name for Bucks Fizz,( legal reasons) the poor mans ABBA, and I seriously do not mean to demean them, as in the absence of ABBA in the early 80s they were a good substitute. They are back with a new album due for release later this year and a new single, set for release in September, I think it's called Dancing in the Rain, I've heard it only the once so far, and it's very ' bucks fizz', produced I believe by Stock, of Stock Aitken and Waterman who could do no wrong in the 80s. It's not bad, but alas won't chart here in the UK because of the new rules.
Along with Steps, is ' pop' trying to make a comeback, God knows we need something a bit more fun, as a friend of mine says, " the charts are full of beige music "
^^sorry, I didn't mean to imply that the forum was closing, I meant that if we didn't make an effort in contribution, that these forums have a tendency to die. Obviously not every topic is going to appeal to everyone, and that's possibley the point. I personally look really just for news, we all have different tastes.
Long may the forum continue, but more contributions please...
Thanks for all the hard work, that you've done, and interesting thought processes on script and tracks involved.
Like ^^^ there are a few who really disliked MM, and others like myself, saw it for what it was, a bit of fun, it was never going to win an oscar, however it did bring ABBA to the fore front, and made them popular all over again, so it did have a positive effect. I'm sure MM2 will do the same as long as it's not to similar and has more of the " other " hits this time around, time will tell of course.
I really hope it's not going to be Gold in its 100th reincarnation, that will be promoted, it will ride along in the charts and will keep on selling its few thousand each week, but let's have something a little different, JLT, will have a good shot at being included this time around after narrowly missing out last time, but as above, we will see.
As an aside, thanks for trying to keep this forum alive, with a new subject, of the approximate 300 here, very few actually contribute in any way, and as before there is a danger of this forum closing, so keep on posting, otherwise we will get diluted into obscurity.
in the UK today it has been announced that ABBA among other celebrities have been recognised , by the giving of a blue plaque,
( for those who do not know what that means, here in the UK famous people are recognised for a particular achievement, whether it's music, literature, science etc, and usually where they lived or in ABBA's case won world wide recognition, they erect a blue plaque in their honour)
so as of today the Brighton Dome where they won Eurovision is to be given this honour of a Blue Plaque, quite an achievement when you consider all the other famous people, like Churchill, Dickens, etc...
^^^ however poignant it may come across, it was very much and do t get me wrong, blackbird blackbird over and over, and alas in my opinion not good enough, hence why it failed to reach the final, that said it was better than quite a few that did make it...
just an aside.. the UK entry only just entered the UK charts, around 73, it will totally disappear this week, and alas the winner didn't officially make the top 75, around 97, again unless in English it had very little chance, as very few foreign language songs make our charts...