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Post by wombat on Oct 3, 2018 14:18:44 GMT
OK, some of this talk has lured me out of "semi-retirement." I have a couple of thoughts/speculations. I would be shocked if anyone thought it was a good idea to broadcast "I Still Have Faith In You" in December and hold off on releasing it until January. Yes, January is a traditionally quiet month that allows some new releases to shine a little brighter. But if the TV special is big and important, it is likely to draw big pre-Christmas viewing figures. Moot point now I guess, but, yes I completely agree. I remember back in the 90s, Neil Young appeared on a Saturday Night Live and debuted his song, "Rockin the Free World". The performance was quite good and I remember the CD set some sort of sales record for purchases on a Sunday... the very next day. Think about now, where you dont even have to go to a store! Bjorn and Benny arent idiots, they know full well the songs MUST be available for download at the same time the songs are premiered. Its almost certain they will be. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 23:18:52 GMT
Whatever our views about New Music from ABBA, we all want them to do well.
I've noticed that some sources are still saying, that 'I Still Have Faith In You' will be revealed in December.
The original 'Global TV' Date, for the 2 Hour ABBA 'Special', was Tuesday December 18th. The 'ABBAtars' were
to perform, (mime), it in that TV ABBA Tribute Show. It was to be the 'Highlight' of the entire 'Event'.
However, the BBC and Bjorn now say that the TV Special is 'delayed', until Spring 2019. Which is any time from
March to June. So, now I don't see how the 1st New Single can be revealed in December. Bjorn has said that the
New Single will also be delayed until Spring 2019. ABBA want any New Songs to be revealed at the same time as
the Global TV 'Special'. Yet, there are still a lot of ABBA Fans who still think that we will hear 'I Still Have Faith In
You' in December. That is just not going to happen...
ABBA will want the New Song to be performed on TV on the same Night that it is available to Download. There is
no point in revealing a New ABBA Single, if people are then unable to buy it - immediately. The same with any CD
or Vinyl versions of any New ABBA Songs. The 'Record' Market is very fast these days, and ABBA will want to take
full advantage of that fact...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 19:56:54 GMT
I never get used to the fact that this Site has a great many Members, but only a very small number of them
actually Post here. I've never understood this.
Is it because Members are scared of expressing themselves, in case their Posts and views get criticised?
I am a very shy and nervous person. It is very hard for me to Post here - but I do so.
We have to be sure of ourselves, and be polite with each other - even if we disagree.
We must not be afraid to Post here.
When we hear the New ABBA Songs, and if we get a New ABBA Album, it would be great if as many
of us as possible would Post here - and say what we think about them - and why.
The same, if The 'ABBAtars' ever get finished, and 'Tour'. We should Post and say what we think about
it all - good, bad, or 'so-so'.
If ABBA create Videos for the New Songs, we should Post and say, if we like those Videos - or not...
But, please would more of us just Post here - and try to join in?
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 7, 2018 20:34:35 GMT
^^^ I have to agree, for whatever reason and it's very exasperating that so few post here, it can literally be days before someone says "hello" let alone have anything to say. ok there are certain posts that are of no interest to myself, but I try to get a thread going. There are now nearly 400 and at a guess less than 25 " fans" contribute, even if it's like myself now responding to the above... I know it's referring to the last " site" but we had a favourite top 100 tracks so many commented on it, went on daily for months, is a good instance of keeping an interest going... or are we ^^ Wasting our breath or is this a subtle way of peeking interest and hoping for a response ...  |
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Post by gary on Oct 7, 2018 21:19:56 GMT
Yes, the top 100s on the previous site were fun.
I think the reality is that ‘chat’, ‘blogs’ and ‘forums’ have moved to Facebook. An ABBA group I belong to on Facebook is far more active than this forum.
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Post by shoshin on Oct 7, 2018 22:27:05 GMT
At the moment, the domain name has expired and ABBAchat isn't coming up in search engine results, which must be affecting traffic. Only a couple of months ago, I was thinking the opposite of the above: the site seemed in rude good health compared to both A4E and ABBAforum, at least as far as the period just before their demise was concerned. Current footfall seems 'same old same old' to me: 15-25 members logged on per day has been par for the course for the past five or six years at least, regardless of forum.
I have the third highest number of posts here, and visit almost every day, but even I have struggled to find something to write recently. We're all interested in different things and I'm afraid that neither Mamma Mia 2, the avatars, or The Party (especially The Party) hold any interest for me. Equally, I must surely hold the record for most new threads with zero or near zero replies, but am I bovvered? Members like Fafner and Contro regularly make major new contributions, barely expecting a 'like', let alone a reply.
Personally, I'm a Benny person rather than a Bjorn person. What I mean by this is that the promotion and expansion of ABBA and its legacy isn't something that I get excited about. For me, it's all about those voices, those compositions and those production values. I would be perfectly happy without MM (stage show and movie), MM2, The Party, and the avatar show. I don't really care whether Gold is the best selling album of all time or the worst. I'm not even too fussed about new songs, if the only reason for their creation is that it makes sense commercially.
Truth is, I preferred it when ABBA was less popular. They were once considered mere pop confection and Bjorn always seems to want them to become a distended parody of that. I liked the period in between. |
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Post by abbafan456 on Oct 8, 2018 2:09:12 GMT
Now I feel bad for never posting much, lol. I tend to get quite nervous posting on ABBAchat since I feel so weird being a young, newer fan among all the older fans and that I don't feel right sharing my opinions if that makes sense.  I do however love sitting back and reading all the posts though. I just don't talk here much since I'm not good at interacting with people anyway. On this topic though, I have shared some of my thoughts on virtual ABBA, the delays in the releases, and whatnot on my blog if anyone's interested, though they tend to get a bit ramble-y which is also kinda why I stick to posting on my blog instead of here. Maybe I should try to be a little more active since there's no ready why I shouldn't be able to contribute, right? This is what the forum is here for after all, ABBA fans of all types to interact and hang out.  |
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Post by gazman on Oct 8, 2018 18:07:26 GMT
I'm very new here but I like to post when I think I have something that others want to hear.
I guess we are in a period of 'waiting for news' at the moment, and although I think I know how things might turn out, I don't want to speculate and lead others into false hope....
I guess, when we have some firmer news filtering through, more opinions may come forward from site members.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 22:14:53 GMT
Although I wish that more Members would Post here, I realise - of course - that many would only like
to Post, if they feel that they have something to say.
I do the opposite - to try to stimulate Posts here, I try to think of Posts - even if I don't really have
anything new to say. It is not that I think that my every Post is 'important'. I just try to get other
Members to join in - by replying to my Posts.
But, even the youngest and newest Members must not be afraid to Post here. Your views are just
as valid and equal as those of those Members - such as I - who Post a great deal. We simply must
not be unkind and rude in response to each others Posts. There is enough horror in the World, and
we must not disrespect the Posts of other ABBA Fans. Even if we strongly disagree with a Member,
there is no need for us to hurt that person with an unkind reply...
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Post by Michal on Oct 12, 2018 10:22:46 GMT
I do the opposite - to try to stimulate Posts here, I try to think of Posts - even if I don't really have anything new to say. It is not that I think that my every Post is 'important'. I just try to get other Members to join in - by replying to my Posts. That's very much appreciated, I guess. At least I enjoy reading your posts (even if I have a feeling sometimes, that you tend to repeat the same thoughts - now I understand why ;-)) Personally I would like to post more but I'm permanently short of time so I think twice before writing something if I have nothing new to say... |
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Post by kruspetiddies on Oct 13, 2018 19:14:01 GMT
Although I wish that more Members would Post here, I realise - of course - that many would only like to Post, if they feel that they have something to say. I do the opposite - to try to stimulate Posts here, I try to think of Posts - even if I don't really have anything new to say. It is not that I think that my every Post is 'important'. I just try to get other Members to join in - by replying to my Posts. But, even the youngest and newest Members must not be afraid to Post here. Your views are just as valid and equal as those of those Members - such as I - who Post a great deal. We simply must not be unkind and rude in response to each others Posts. There is enough horror in the World, and we must not disrespect the Posts of other ABBA Fans. Even if we strongly disagree with a Member, there is no need for us to hurt that person with an unkind reply... Well,I will start posting more when we have more news. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 12:09:29 GMT
Yesterday -- Thursday 18th October -- Bjorn gave an Interview to USA Today.
As you can see in the Video, he discusses the New ABBA Music. (From 1.15 onwards).
He only talks about 2 New Songs, so the 3rd one, that he & Benny 'had in mind', has either
been decided against, or they still plan to do it. No mention, (or the least hint), about a New
ABBA Album. So, either ABBA plan a huge surprise, in 2019, or there was never a hope of us
getting an entire Album.
Bjorn talks about The 'ABBAtars' singing the 2 Songs, and says it will happen in March 2019.
However, he is careful not to mention the 2 Hour Global ABBA TV Special, at all. Instead, he
says that The 'ABBAtars' will sing the Songs, but it is not certain how this will happen. I'm now
wondering if the idea of the 2 Hour TV Special has now been dropped, and ABBA just plan to
make a couple of short 'Promo Videos' for the 2 New Songs, with The 'ABBAtars' performing
in them, but no sign of the 'Real' ABBA in them, at all. We will have to see...
Anyhow, whatever is going to happen, will do so in March 2019. Let us pray that there are no further
delays, when that time approaches. It makes it look like ABBA don't know what they are doing, if they
delay things too much.
BJORN INTERVIEWED BY USA TODAY -- THURSDAY 18th OCTOBER 2018
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Post by kruspetiddies on Oct 19, 2018 20:27:05 GMT
^^A specific date is missing...we know it's in March 2019 but when exactly?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 15:23:45 GMT
An article in DI Weekend says the virtual tour will not premiere until 2020 at the earliest. "All depends on the technics. The tour will not happen until it's good enough" says Görel Hanser.
Per Sundin adds: "Both Simon Fuller and Björn and Benny have extremely high demands. It's not enough that the technics is mindblowing for 10 minutes but it's about creating a complete experience that will keep the audience in a grip for maybe 90 minutes."
But technics isn't the only reason the project is delayed. It's also about lack of financing and that technics partner Pulse at the moment is to be bought by a competitor after a lengthy owner's battle.
A direct consequence of the delays are that the global TV shows that BBC and NBC would co-produce in ABBA's honour is put on hold. It was there the newly written ABBA songs would be premiered, according to the the original plan. A new launch plan does not yet exist.
But Swedish Johan Renck is tied to the project and the hope has long been that he will direct the video for the new ABBA song "I Still Have Faith In You", where the ABBA avatars are planned to appear for the first time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 12:00:41 GMT
WE MAY NOT GET THE NEW ABBA SONGS UNTIL SUMMER 2019...
On Sunday, (24th), Bjorn appeared on Andrew Marr's Political program, on BBC 1.
This is from an Article about it:
Next year ABBA are expected to go back on tour as holograms, which will see them appear as they did in 1979.
Among other things Bjorn said:
Bjorn teased: “We've written a new song and recorded that and this will be sung by those digital twins.
“It's been delayed. It was supposed to be released this autumn, but it will probably be in the beginning of next summer.”
So, all of a sudden, he only talks as if there is 1 New Song - not 2. Also, that the Song has been pushed back from next
Spring - to next Summer...
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Post by foreverfan on Nov 28, 2018 18:24:29 GMT
A word of caution..
Take That a huge ' old ' boy band in the UK, 12 number singles 7 number one albums, have a greatest hits album, Odyssey, released this week and is currently out selling the other top 5 albums combined sales. Nearly sold 100.000 already.
That all said, they have failed to have a new release hit the singles charts, from this album,( I think 2 or 3 new tracks ) their last hit was only number 13 and stayed in the charts for a miserable 3 weeks, officially only 1 week in the top 75. .. their last top 10 was 2014.
it all goes to show ABBA have a huge mountain to climb to get into the UK singles top 10 let alone number 1, with the new releases..
Make a new Album , forget the singles and it will be massive..
Hope I'm wrong of course, but not looking to great , if a relatively new group cant do it and they have a huge following...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 20:21:39 GMT
Graham -- Take That's 'Odyssey' has 27 Tracks. It is a Compilation, with 3 New Tracks. The vast bulk of the Tracks on it are their old Hits. However, they have all been drastically Remixed. A lot of them have been slowed down. They wanted to give their Fans something different, as their previous 'Hits' Album has sold over 2 Million UK copies since 2005. 'Odyssey' will be the 1st UK Album of 2018 to sell over 100,000 in a Week. The Album is selling like that, even though the Singles off it have failed to reach the UK Top 100. It is now very hard indeed for 'Old' Acts to have big - or even medium - Hit Singles. However, they can still have huge Hit Albums, as Take That are proving. But, will ABBA record one? Christmas Singles can also do very well in the Charts. People start 'Streaming' them in November. Already 'All I Want For Christmas Is You' by Mariah Carey, is back in the UK Top 40. It is its 88th Top 100 Week, 73rd Top 75 Week and 57th Top 40 Week. If only ABBA would do a Christmas Song. Today there was a growing 'Media Fuss' in the UK, because ABBA have opened a Twitter Account. The Media - and some Fans - think that ABBA are to make 'An Announcement' about a 2019 Tour. Of course, ABBA have no intentions of Touring. If it happens, it will be The 'ABBAtars'. Not the 'Real' ABBA, at all. However - Could it be a forthcoming ABBA Album?
www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6439453/ABBA-joins-Twitter-posts-Arrival-tweet-sending-fans-speculative-meltdown.htmlBjorn has now repeated that we will not get any New Songs until 'Early Summer 2019'.
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Post by Michal on Nov 29, 2018 17:51:44 GMT
^ Somehow I don't feel the new album is completely impossible anymore. Could it actually be a reason of postponing the release of the two new songs?? Maybe their joint experience in the recording studio was so enjoyable that they decided to expand their "comeback" to a final album (and one of the reasons may be that they're fully aware of the fact that it's likely their reunion will be more spectacular chart-wise).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 11:54:30 GMT
An article in DI Weekend says the virtual tour will not premiere until 2020 at the earliest. "All depends on the technics. The tour will not happen until it's good enough" says Görel Hanser. Björn already talked about the new songs being premiered in summer... Thinking about the past months and with the premiere of the tour in 2020 I don't expect anything before Christmas 2019, otherwise promotion for the tour would start way too early.
Sorry, but to me this has become ridiculous. Starting with the fact that from the beginning the main motivation for the new songs was promotion for the virtual tour, tying them still to it gives me very mixed emotions about the whole thing. If they really had so much joy recording the songs, they should have re-thought their strategy by now, but apparently at least some of the ABBA members stick to it and turn the songs into oldies before they even became public.
The big news are the new songs, not the virtual tour! For the moment though my excitement about them has turned into a "so what".
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 12:59:23 GMT
ABBA told us about the New Songs far too early. it was a huge error of judgement. It was all tied into the 'ABBAtars'
Tour starting and being a success. However, they cannot get the 'ABBAtars' working properly, so we now end up with
delay after delay. We cannot hear the New Songs and the 2 Hour TV Special is also delayed.
By the time ABBA finally give us the New Songs - if ever - they will be very old to ABBA, as they recorded them in June
2017. Which means that that the recordings are already 18 Months old - with even more delays to add to that.
I've never known ABBA to be so confused and chaotic about their plans and intentions. It makes it look like they no longer
know what they are doing. That they are very disorganised.
I was wondering - last night - if they might 'Premier' one of the New Songs at the 2019 Eurovision Song Contest - using
the 'ABBAtars' to mime to it. The 'ABBAtars' need not even be on stage. They could be seen in a Video, 'singing' the Song.
ABBA may decide to do that, if they realise that the 'ABBAtars' Tour is going to be delayed for several more Months...
I was hoping that ABBA would use the delays to record a New Album, but that may be far too optimistic.
By announcing the New Songs far too soon, and then delaying them, ABBA have made a great risk of alienating a lot
of their Fans. For a start, I've read many Fan Posts on YouTube, where they say that they think that the 'ABBAtars'
idea is stupid. That they have no intentions of paying 'good money' to see Holograms, when the 4 Members of ABBA
are still alive. They'd rather see the 'Real' ABBA on Tour. If they can't have that, then they certainly won't be going
to see the 'ABBAtars'.
Many ABBA Fans want ABBA to give up the 'ABBAtars' Tour completely, and to just record a New Album. They'd rather
have that, than endless delays of a 'Project' that is of Zero interest to them...The 'ABBAtars' could be used in Promo
Videos, for New Songs, but the Tour idea is a huge mistake.
When I mentioned the negative YouTube Posts in an Email, I had some Fans practically accusing me of lying. They said that
they had not seen any anti-'ABBAtars' Posts, and they wanted to know where I'd seen them. This is because those Fans see
the 'ABBAtars' as a 'fantastic' idea, and they cannot imagine any Fans thinking they are a 'bad' idea...
Some Fans think that I try to cause trouble for ABBA. This is not so. I love ABBA and I never stop thanking them for making
my life better, with their Music. I just do not want the 'ABBAtars' 'Project' to be a huge disaster and flop, with the entire World's
Media watching - and commenting on how ABBA 'Got it terribly wrong'. I do not want ABBA to have such humiliation...
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Post by bennybjorn on Dec 1, 2018 23:17:38 GMT
I think the real elephant-in-the-room with all these delays is the age of the four members.
They're the same age as my parents (who seem to be attending yet another friend's funeral every other week).
20 (or even 10) years ago they could afford to delay their plans for a couple of years. Now that they're in their 70s, they really can't.
It's amazing that they've finally written and recorded some new songs after all this time, but they need to really start progressing things with a much greater sense of urgency. And yes, I'm sure the wider world would much prefer a new album to the Abbatar thing, although you can't blame them for wanting to test the water with a couple of songs first...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2018 20:22:02 GMT
Ever since ABBA said they'd recorded 2 New Songs, ABBA Fans have speculated about what they may do with them. How
they'd release and promote them etc.
There are also various views on what different Fans would like ABBA to do. I'd like them to just use The 'ABBAtars' to
promote their New Songs in Videos. I cannot see the 'Tour' being a huge success, as I've seen a lot of Fans saying that
they regard such a 'Show' as a 'Con' and a 'Rip Off', because it is not going to be the 'Real' ABBA on Stage. Those Fans
have no intentions of paying money to see what they regard as a farce and a swindle. As such, there is a big divide,
between those Fans who will go to see The 'ABBAtars' and those who will ignore them completely.
A lot of Fans do not understand why 'ABBAtars' should Tour, when all 4 Members of the 'Real' ABBA are still alive. They
feel cheated by such a concept. They really do not care how old ABBA are - they want to see the 'Real' ABBA performing
on Stage. I do not. I know that it would be a disaster and ABBA don't want to do it anyhow. But, I don't want The 'ABBAtars'
Tour either. I think that the 'Touring' idea is a huge error. But, using them in Promo Videos is a good compromise.
Therefore, the 'Tours' will not make as much cash as ABBA & Simon Fuller think, as a lot of Fans will snub it all.
I'd like ABBA to record a New Album. Plus a Christmas Single. ABBA could create a wonderful Christmas Single,
and it would sell again every November to January - to give ABBA a Yearly place in several Countries Singles Charts.
They do not have that place at present. I'd like ABBA to do a Christmas Single, that is as loved as the ones by Wham!
and Mariah Carey. The Wham! one - 'Last Christmas' - is Germany's biggest scoring Hit ever. Mariah's 'All I Want For
Christmas Is You', is in the Top 5 biggest scoring Hits in UK Chart History. ABBA are virtually unknown in the Yearly
Singles Charts, because they never recorded a Christmas Single. I do wish that they'd do one...
I don't expect The 'ABBAtars' to be a big success. Not as an on-going Touring attraction, anyhow. Too many Fans
are against the idea. The Fans who like the idea will not be enough to see it through. It may be a brief success, but
not for very long. The 'Novelty' will wear off very fast...
I do not think that ABBA are having 'trouble' with the New Songs. Benny and Bjorn would never have told us about
them if they'd been inferior, or not quite good enough. I think that the delays are due to ABBA having far more problems
with The 'ABBAtars', than they were expecting. They cannot get them 'right' to act as ABBA did in 1979 - or in any other
Year, for that matter. It is the 'Holograms' that are messing everything up. I wish that ABBA would not tie the release of
the New Songs to such an unstable, untried and unknown group of 'Entities'...ABBA should only have told us about the
New Songs when The 'ABBAtars' were properly 'working'. Now they are delaying things due to not thinking it through.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2018 21:57:59 GMT
Therefore, the 'Tours' will not make as much cash as ABBA & Simon Fuller think, as a lot of Fans will snub it all.
The number of ABBA fans you find on the net is irrelevant. It's just a very small minority compared to the total number globally. "Many" fans dislike the whole 'Mamma Mia!' industry very much, yet it's a huge success. If tickets will stay halfway affordable for most people, it will be a success till the next step in technical progress. There will also be large parts of hardcore fans wanting to see it for various motivations. In the wider audience there are enough people looking for new events and technics anyway. Just think of the huge Asian market with their interest in high tech gimmicks.
Via icethesite (Twitter) Benny published some statement today, saying the songs weren't even readily mixed. – Wow, they really must enjoy recording the songs when they feel that much urged... Not.
Well, also no word to fans like "sorry, we know you are waiting for the songs, but...". At least he said "We can't wait forever."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 4:07:24 GMT
Abbafan2018 -- I take on board what you are saying. That The 'ABBAtars' may well be a huge success. That
'The Doubting Fans' are probably an insignificant minority. I seem to be wandering around The Internet,
Posting little 'Essays' rather than small to medium Posts. Below, you can see one that I've added to 2 ABBA
Threads on a UK Chart Site. I never really say anything 'bad' about ABBA. I just worry - lately - if they are
fully sure what they are doing. They seem confused and to spread that confusion to many of their Fans.
It is hard to know where all of this will end - the 2, (or more), New Songs, the Global TV Special, and
The 'ABBAtars' Tour/Concerts. Will all of those things happen? Or will none of them happen?
ABBA were always so careful in their plans. It astonishes me that they announced the 2 New Songs without
finishing them first. As well as the 2 Hour Global TV Special being announced, (for December 2018, and now
for 'Sometime in 2019'), without that even being created.
All of this has created a lot of confusion with ABBA Fans. The more pessimistic Fans are now wondering if the
2 New ABBA Songs will ever be released. As well as thinking that the Global TV Special is never going to be made.
It is really sad and tragic to see such confusion from ABBA after all of these Years.
Some Fans say that there is no use in paying attention to 'The Internet ABBA Fans', who don't want The 'ABBATars'.
They say that such Fans are not representitive of the people who will go to see The 'ABBAtars' Concerts/Tours. That
the 'Project' will be a big success. We will see. I am not Psychic and my doubts about The 'ABBAtars' may be totally
wrong. I would be pleased to be mistaken about the 'Project'. Only time can tell us if ABBA's 'ideas' will be
put into action, and - if they are - if they will succeed. The 'ideas' being the 2, (or more), New ABBA Songs,
the 2 Hour TV Special and The 'ABBAtars' Tour...
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Post by foreverfan on Dec 8, 2018 9:23:44 GMT
^^^I agree from a long standing personal view about concerns regarding the Abbatars. That said, I also have to agree, that there are so few of us to make any huge difference, even on here there are only around 400 members of which I'm guessing 300 plus make no contribution but just observe so the " moaners" are a very small minority. As for the general public, majority will have already forgotten about the new tracks and the forthcoming show and Abbatars, that is until the media whips it all up again, which it will do. So ultimately, it's quite possible that it's no more than a handful of so called die hard fans who think this is a bad idea, if you added them all up I doubt more than 50 , and that's being generous, ( multiple posts by the same person looks dramatic ). So in all reality do they really make that much of a difference to what will happen....no. Time itself will dictate how good everything will be or not, so let's just sit and wait a little longer, then we can all have our say, all 50 of us..lol  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 11:25:52 GMT
Personally I don't care about the Abbatar thing. I do care for the songs, but when B&B stated they wrote the songs for the virtual tour my joy immediately cooled down and got more and more replaced by the bitter thought that the motivation for recording again was just big money, at least for some of the ABBA members.
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Post by madonnabba on Dec 8, 2018 11:38:53 GMT
I am looking forward to the new projects especially the new songs. Think the Abbatars could do well for group night outs such as hen parties and family groups ...most of them probably not even born at the time of Abba’s Initial success and missed out on the real thing. There is even the possibility of an Abba member or two interacting with the audience remotely (from Sweden or elsewhere) via their Abbatar to help with the Live feel. Maybe a release next year is not such a bad thing as there has been a lot of Abba related activity this year with Mamma Mia here we go again and Cher’s Abba album.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 15:01:33 GMT
...and nothing original ABBA since 2014. No TV material, no live material, just some cash-ins with "limited" vinyls.
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Post by Michal on Dec 8, 2018 15:10:39 GMT
Personally, when they announced the ABBAtar thing, I was quite excited about the prospect of maybe being able to experience the recreated ABBA tours as I was born at the very end of ABBA's active career and thus wasn't able to see the real thing. However, as the project evolves (or does not evolve) my enthusiasm slowly dies out. It doesn't seem they're actually planning to do copies of the original concerts, it's not even sure they will use the original live recordings, so what will become of it? Holograms, miming to ABBA Gold CD? That's something one may go to see once out of curiosity but I don't see how they want to make people come repeatedly… So what I'm really looking forward to are the new songs and I just hope they won't cancel the release just because the ABBAtars don't work the way they hoped.
P.S. @abbafan2018, I don't really think they're doing it for money… they certainly don't need to. And remember the 1 billion dollar offer ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 18:46:13 GMT
The 2 ABBA 'Projects' that would have the biggest immediate and long term impacts are:. 1)... A New ABBA Album. it would be huge - Globally. 2)... An ABBA Single about Christmas. it would re-Chart - around the World - every November, December and January. In Germany, Wham!'s 'Last Christmas' has re-Charted so many times, that it is the biggest scoring Single of 'All Time' there. In the UK, Mariah Carey has just jumped from No.34 to No.6 with 'All I Want For Christmas Is You'. It is its 17th Top 10 Week, and it has re-Charted every Year since 2007. It was a 1994 No.2 Hit. Incredibly, it also reached No.2 in 2017. it is the UK's 4th biggest scoring Single - ever. In 2nd place is 'Fairytale Of New York', by The Pogues Feat. Kirsty MacColl. That was a 1987 No.2 Hit. That too has re-Charted every Year since 2007. it is up from No.66 to No.18 in the latest UK Chart. Wham!'s Hit is the UK's 10th best scoring Hit. That is up from No.52 to No.14 in the latest UK Chart. An ABBA Christmas Single would also re-Chart - Year after Year. However, they have to spend a few days recording one first. I see The 'ABBAtars' Project, as far less certain of success, than an Album or Christmas Single. It would be a great shame, if ABBA decided that it was all a mistake and went back into 'Hibernation'. It would mean that they wasted precious time, when they could have done other things, with more long term and instant popularity... THE 2 HOUR ABBA TV SPECIAL - CANCELLED?
On a UK Chart Site an ABBA Fan has reported that the 2 Hour TV Special has been cancelled. He gave no source for the 'News'. The last I heard, Benny and Bjorn were saying that it was delayed until about Spring - or Summer - 2019. (It was originally due to be shown on Tuesday 18th December - this Year). If the cancellation is correct, then I wonder what the end results of the New ABBA Songs and The 'ABBAtars' will be? Will it all end as if we are back in the Mid 1980's? ABBA in 'Hibernation'? Nothing for their Fans? The ABBA TV 'Special' is supposed to be made by NBC in the USA, with the UK's BBC handling International syndication. The NBC Site still advertises the 'Special': www.nbc.com/abba-thank-you-for-the-music-an-all-star-tributeThere is still a Wikipedia Page about it: bit.ly/2B1iGrRAs well as a Page about it, (being delayed), on a Eurovision Song Contest Site: www.escxtra.com/2018/09/18/abba-delay-music-comeback-and-documentary-until-2019/ |
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I do however love sitting back and reading all the posts though. I just don't talk here much since I'm not good at interacting with people anyway. 
