|
Post by gazman on Dec 8, 2018 20:14:27 GMT
Benny has said that the new songs will come. They need mixing and he has indicated that Frida and Agnetha will add more vocals. We just have to be patient for a few more months.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 20:15:17 GMT
I've been told that The International ABBA Fan Club's latest Magazine is now saying that the proposed Global 2 Hour ABBA TV 'Special' has now been cancelled. However, that may just be their interpretation of the fact that it has been 'delayed until 2019', after originally being planned to be shown on Tuesday 18th December - next Week.
Both Benny and Bjorn have been saying that the TV 'Special' will go ahead - but in 2019.
If it has been cancelled, it leaves just the 2 New ABBA Songs and The 'ABBAtars' Tour, as regards ABBA's proposed 'Plans'. The 'Tour' may not even be ready until 2020. We may never get it at all.
We will see what 2019 brings. Waiting is all we can do.
In the meantime, there seems to be no ABBA Themed TV Shows - at all - on UK TV at Christmas. Maybe the TV Channels feel that the UK needs a break from ABBA.
After all, nearly everything is always based on old ABBA Songs. We never really get anything truly 'New'.
|
|
|
Post by Zeebee on Dec 10, 2018 21:47:54 GMT
I don't really think they're doing it for money… they certainly don't need to. And remember the 1 billion dollar offer ;-) That is a very good point, Michal. I'm glad you mentioned it.
I would consider going to see the ABBAtars since I never saw ABBA in person. I don't recall hearing in 1979 that they were coming to North America, although I was 17 years old at the time. When they did their concerts in Chicago and Milwaukee at the end of September 1979, it was early in my last year of high school. I live halfway between Chicago and Milwaukee, and had I known about those shows, I would've gone to the one in Chicago (I wouldn't have had a way to get to Milwaukee).
I hope they at least release the new songs. When the news about them was announced, I posted about them on Facebook, and I also posted about the release of the songs and the TV special being postponed.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 10:06:53 GMT
P.S. @abbafan2018 , I don't really think they're doing it for money… they certainly don't need to. And remember the 1 billion dollar offer ;-)
Michal, it wouldn't be the first time, if you ask me, but I absolutely accept that you, that fans see it your way. However, in my opinion that offer is no "evidence" since it was for a big "real-life" tour requiring all four in person – all the time. For the virtual thing much, much less effort is needed from ABBA / B&B. Anyway, it doesn't matter, as I said it's just my personal opinion.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 0:29:35 GMT
Benny talking about a possible third song
Yet he (and I assume at least Björn thinks so too) still thinks about it only in conjunction with the tour because he thinks new material was needed for it. I think he's wrong about this. Isn't it very weird anyway when ABBA 79 sing the songs of ABBA 2017-2019? Sorry, but I really don't get it.
|
|
|
Post by bennybjorn on Dec 12, 2018 17:49:22 GMT
Benny talking about a possible third song Yet he (and I assume at least Björn thinks so too) still thinks about it only in conjunction with the tour because he thinks new material was needed for it. I think he's wrong about this. Isn't it very weird anyway when ABBA 79 sing the songs of ABBA 2017-2019? Sorry, but I really don't get it. Ooh, that's great news. Thanks for posting. On the downside I guess it confirms there have only been two songs recorded to date - some of us were secretly hoping they'd been working on an album. But a third song would still be brilliant. Exciting times!
|
|
|
Post by foreverfan on Dec 12, 2018 18:12:25 GMT
If we are to believe ^^^ then why wouldn't they, sounds optimistic, why do one more !!!!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 21:06:11 GMT
1)... So Benny & Bjorn want to do a 3rd New ABBA Song, because the 1st 2 are now rather 'old'. They want The 'ABBAtars' to have something totally 'fresh' to 'Sing'. (Mime).
2)... The downside, is that they seem to be linking anything New for ABBA to what The 'ABBAtars' will 'use'. Rather than them focusing on New ABBA Songs for the Fans to be given. This worries me, as it makes it sound like we will only get the 3 New Songs if The 'ABBAtars' work out and if their 'Tour' goes ahead.
3)... Like a lot of Fans, I'd rather that ABBA did New ABBA Songs, for we ABBA Fans - irrespective of whether The 'ABBAtars' Project goes ahead...
4)... Also - Why should ABBA do just 3 New Songs? It would only need a few Weeks extra Studio time to give us an entire New ABBA Album. I'm still hoping that this is what ABBA are really going to do...
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 19:05:39 GMT
Dear fans, Pls stop this whole discussion about the avatars going to be a succes or not, the 2 new recorded songs being delayed, the 4 don’t know anymore what they are doing, the avatar tour going to be a big mistake, the delays being a shame, the 3rd new song (not sure) again with negative feedback on this abbachat site. Sorry, as a real ABBA fan my admiration has always been the wonderfull music they made. The 4 of them. The Benny/Björn composers, the Agnetha/Frida vocals and harmonies. They always said: as long as it’s fun. And finally they got fun again! Let them! Let them have the fun! We will see what we will get from that! (Btw I hope a lot!) But: who are we as fans to judge about what the 4 are doing?? Pls stop all this negative energy! Pls Benny Björn Agnetha Frida don’t listen to the negative messages. Just do what you like to do, enjoy the fun, and don’t feel pressed. Pls Görel, tell them! (I like to adress Görel, she is the magic person understanding everything about the 4, really!). The real fans will just wait now and see what comes out of it.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 19:14:57 GMT
Btw I think there are more positive fans around the world, than negative ones (that u find in chats on this site).....
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 19:23:44 GMT
So there we have it - any one who says the least 'negative' thing about the 'ABBA Delays', or who has doubts about The 'ABBAtars' is not a 'Real Fan'. Only Fans who say lovely, positive, cheerful things about ABBA are 'Real Fans'.
I was so wrong to think that I was an ABBA Fan. Thank goodness Janabbafan made me see that I'm not a Fan at all...
As for the ABBA Members reading 'negative' things from 'Not Real Fans', and possibly being 'put off' doing their 'Projects'. Well, I doubt very much, if they see these Posts. Even if they did, they are extremely unlikely to let it get to them. They seem determined to go ahead with The 'ABBAtars', so they are not going to pay any attention to the 'Not Real Fans', who have doubts about it all. Why should they? They have their own views, and they need not heed what anyone else says.
Janabbafan - If the 'Negative Vibe' here upsets you, then why stay? Why not only Post where all the 'Real Fans' are?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 19:50:13 GMT
Pls keep positive. Let the 4 do what THEY like to do. We are not as fans the ones to judge about that. They are also not judging about what you are doing.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 21:35:58 GMT
Janabbafan -- We are all ABBA Fans here. I'm sorry if my Post was rude or sarcastic to you. I really did not intend to be unpleasant to you. Sorry.
|
|
|
Post by Michal on Dec 14, 2018 22:17:10 GMT
Pls keep positive. Let the 4 do what THEY like to do. We are not as fans the ones to judge about that. They are also not judging about what you are doing. The problem is, the whole world is watching and waiting and they will be judged by everybody, whatever they do (or don't do) in the end. That's the reason why some of us here may be afraid that something may go wrong and the group, who worked so hard and has finally earned their very well-deserved respect among critics and media may be laughed at by them all again. Personally I'm very glad they finally recorded something together and I wouldn't care even if it was a folk cover they did… just to hear and see them together is enough for me. However, I feel a bit nervous about the ABBAtars too, as the anticipation is very high and if the whole thing doesn't turn out well, it may be very embarrassing. It doesn't mean I'm less of a fan than the one, who's watching their progress with starry eyes...
|
|
|
Post by foreverfan on Dec 15, 2018 9:34:20 GMT
Fans take on all levels of Fandom, from marginal interest to being fanatic, the latter are the ones I tend to think a little strange, where no matter what the artist in our case ABBA can do no wrong.. it's all from a personal point of view. In my opinion ABBA have done wrong, in the past and no doubt will do in the future, but hey, 99% is fine with me.. Abbatars, whatever will be will be.. the true hard core fans these days are minimal, just look at this site only 400 ish members and only a handful ever submit anything less than 30 of us at a guess on a regular basis. The general public will lap up the ABBAtars , for the fun factor and will generate money, for us many will take or leave them, personally it will depend on how much a ticket will be for instance.. Its ok to have concerns but nothing has happened yet and I can't see if all went wrong, that they wouldn't release the new tracks. 6 months and counting and I hope more than the odd 30 of us have a say...
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 12:09:01 GMT
Janabbafan -- We are all ABBA Fans here. I'm sorry if my Post was rude or sarcastic to you. I really did not intend to be unpleasant to you. Sorry. It's OK. Don't worry.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2018 11:15:48 GMT
Sorry, as a real ABBA fan my admiration has always been the wonderfull music they made. The 4 of them. The Benny/Björn composers, the Agnetha/Frida vocals and harmonies. They always said: as long as it’s fun. And finally they got fun again! Let them! Let them have the fun! But that's the point: It's ABBA or B&B at least who shift the focus from anything fun about recording to the marketing of the tour. Instead of letting the songs stand for themselves they just turn them into a vehicle for an apparently bigger project. How much all 4 or just some of them agree or just accept this 'strategy' we don't know for sure. Anyway, remember the media attention they received just for the announcement of new songs. ABBA are so huge that anything new from them will draw attention to other ABBA projects automatically. If this doesn't give you the freedom to really do things just for fun, I don't know what else could.
If expressing my disagreement with ABBA/B&B about these things doesn't make me a real fan anymore after enjoying their music through all the decades including the "dark years" before the revival in the 90s, then so it may be. In this case I dare to say that I know better about my fandom.
|
|