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Post by Michal on May 10, 2022 18:59:26 GMT
In sixteen days we will know. At least three forum members are attending the VIP opening night, so there will be first-hand news here. Of course we don't know what the show will be like at the moment but I'm optimistic. I can't imagine the ABBA members would approve of something that could be called a disaster. It can happen that the show won't live up to the expectation of everybody but I'm sure it will be spectacular.
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Post by bennybjorn on May 10, 2022 21:49:47 GMT
I'm a fan of Johnny's posts too. Objective rather than negative I'd say and always well informed.
Anyway, another way of looking at the 300,000 concert sales is that this represents well over 3 times Wembley stadium concert capacity.
I doubt there's more than a handful of acts in the world that could shift that many tickets, and this is even without the group appearing personally themselves! So it's pretty impressive stuff.
You could also liken it to a new film as no-one really knows quite what to expect. People don't buy tickets to new films months in advance.
Of course, the Voyage concerts could still be a relative flop but worth remembering the unusual context before declaring it such in advance.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 11:10:04 GMT
I'll second that. Johnny's comments and views are always a valid contribution to the forum . We all have our " off days ".
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 11:16:35 GMT
I just saw on one of ABBA's socials a trailer with Thank You For the Music and mention of 20 ABBA songs in the concert.
Regarding my comments, I think BennyBjorn is right, I am objective (which doesn't necessarily mean 'correct'). I see myself as a "Critical Friend". Some may focus on the "critical", I see myself as a Friend.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 11:20:14 GMT
I'll second that. Johnny's comments and views are always a valid contribution to the forum . We all have our " off days ". Thanks... up to a point. I don't have "off days" only days when more people disagree with me. And there's nothing wrong with disagreement. 😀 |
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Post by Michal on May 11, 2022 18:48:04 GMT
There was a lot of positivity too. There's no need to leave the forum if you don't agree with another member or two. It is a pity, as there are so few here posting...
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Post by Alan on May 11, 2022 22:45:10 GMT
Oh, that’s unfortunate. Deleting profiles is always so drastic and means you can’t go into their profile to re-read their previous posts. I don’t want anyone to feel they have to leave, but at the same time I can’t moderate against posts perceived as being negative.
Generally there’s only the one person that likes to put a downer on things and we have to accept that’s how they are. There’s also been quite a lot of positivity lately. I, for one, am very much looking forward to seeing the Voyage show.
Hundreds (or certainly tens) of people have left the forum over the years. When I was going through old topics during my re-structuring exercise I noticed quite a few that once regularly posted but are now long gone. As their profiles remain open, they’re still identifiable. Deleted profiles generally aren’t. Thankfully Eddie and Colin both came back with new profiles. Harry may do the same.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2022 7:28:40 GMT
Unfortunately, I probably won't be able to get to the concert, however I will be surprised if it is not popular/successful. If Mamma Mia (theatre show) can run for nearly 25 years, with other people singing the songs, then I can't see any reason why the concert won't succeed. It has to be seen for what it is really, a good night out, not an intimate affair with die-hard fans like us! I'd like to think it will run and run, but I think Vegas may be the long term venue. Maybe that would mean there will be a DVD of the show for most of us who can't get to Vegas!? Can't see that affecting Vegas ticket sales! We must not forget also, how much hard work has gone in to this. I wonder if rehearsals in the venue have actually been done yet? I can't imagine with all that technology that it will only be tested out a couple of nights before opening!!! I feel positive about it, we all need that these days!!
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2022 9:05:27 GMT
If some people want to leave the forum that's up to them. Deleting a profile seema to be a tad drastic. Hopefully Harry will come back. In the real world people have different opinions and personalities. It's good to accept diversity, imo.
Regarding negativity, personally I don't feel talking about poor ticket sales for the autumn is just stating facts. I have also said, hopefully they will pick up with positive reviews. Even Bjorn has had a wobble. Nervous expectation is not negative
Singling out one or two people for negativity or "putting on a downer" but not saying who is, is both cowardly and gaslighting. Neither of which are positive.
Only two weeks to go. I am looking forward to finding out about what the show is all about. What it looks like and what songs are in it.
I haven't written the show off just curious about it. I have an open mind.
Alib, I hope and think there will be a dvd of the Concert at some stage so the millions of fans around the world.
Alan is right when he says dvd sales are not what they are. But you can say the same about cd sales and we got the voyage album. There could be a downloadable digital version. To say there won't be, at some stage, is to me, well, negative.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2022 9:59:25 GMT
My comments about singling out people was clearly related to alleged negative posts not anyone leaving...as the quote you supplied shows.
This is boring now. Move on, people.
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Post by Alan on May 12, 2022 9:59:28 GMT
Singling out one or two people for negativity or "putting on a downer" but not saying who is, is both cowardly and gaslighting. It was neither of those. I didn’t mention you by name as it’s quite obvious to most of the members on here who I was referring to. You don’t seem to have acknowledged that I did defend you, saying we have to accept how people are and I can’t moderate against it just because it might upset another member (and in this case apparently cause them to leave). And haven’t you just done the same? It was me that used the word “downer” so that was clearly aimed at me and yet you didn’t mention me. Is that not cowardly and gaslighting? |
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Post by HOMETIME on May 12, 2022 11:14:08 GMT
Get down off the cross, Johnny, we need the wood. The first rule of any forum is "don't be a dick" and you've ridden roughshod over that from day one. Yes, we get that you have strongly-held views: it's not like you ever held back. As strangers, probably nobody here means anything to you, so why should you give a continental sh1te about anyone else's views/feelings/opinions when your opinion is the only one you're prepared to consider? And the absolute gall of you to accuse others of misbehaviour when you had the mother of all tantrums in the not-too-distant past, lashing out like Nellie Oleson on speed. Your behaviour is a constant strain on the atmosphere. After Alan lifted your well-earned ban, you approximated social decency for a while, but the longterm effort has clearly been too much. If people are using the block button (me, in case you hadn't guessed) or are leaving because of your behaviour, then you really need to take a long hard look at how you act.
Your insistence that you do no wrong here is textbook gaslighting. Catch a hold of yourself.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2022 11:16:54 GMT
Are there any fan gatherings happening in London during opening week of Voyage?
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2022 11:30:08 GMT
Feel better now Hometime?
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Post by HOMETIME on May 12, 2022 11:32:15 GMT
Much.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2022 12:44:02 GMT
Remember back in September, the unveiling of two new songs,announcement of both the first new album in 40 years and the Voyage concert.
It was huge news. Not just for us fans but it made the news in the media.
The singles got rave reviews - even from the lady in the Guardian who have Voyage just 2 stars. Boo hiss!
The actual release of Voyage and it getting to #1 didn't have the same media impact. I really expected a "And finally" type bit on the news about Voyage getting to #1. The reviews of the album were mixed
I think some reviwers were thinking along the lines of Gold Greatest Hits.
The concert IN TWO WEEKS TIME. I guess the media interest will be more than when the album came out but maybe as not as that first announcement in September.
The reviews will be vital imo for the longterm success of the show. People will want to know what ti expect. In 2 weeks time we'll find out.
The location is not ideal but realistic. The nature of the show meant it had to have a purpose built venue - so ruling out the West End.
The prices could be better too.
But that nitpicking aside I hope it all goes well. I want ABBA's last new activity to be a huge success.
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Post by tagaytay on May 12, 2022 13:09:55 GMT
Get down off the cross, Johnny, we need the wood. The first rule of any forum is "don't be a dick" and you've ridden roughshod over that from day one. Yes, we get that you have strongly-held views: it's not like you ever held back. As strangers, probably nobody here means anything to you, so why should you give a continental sh1te about anyone else's views/feelings/opinions when your opinion is the only one you're prepared to consider? And the absolute gall of you to accuse others of misbehaviour when you had the mother of all tantrums in the not-too-distant past, lashing out like Nellie Oleson on speed. Your behaviour is a constant strain on the atmosphere. After Alan lifted your well-earned ban, you approximated social decency for a while, but the longterm effort has clearly been too much. If people are using the block button (me, in case you hadn't guessed) or are leaving because of your behaviour, then you really need to take a long hard look at how you act. Your insistence that you do no wrong here is textbook gaslighting. Catch a hold of yourself. I agree and you have said what I guess are the sentiments of many others who are just too shy (timid?) or just cant be bothered to waste the effort to call him out. |
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Post by welshboy on May 12, 2022 14:36:33 GMT
As for the Voyage Concerts not so long to wait now and then we can all see how good they are going to be. I for one am so looking forward to the show I never got to see them in 79 and did not think I would have the chance to see a show like this. They are part of the show the real members. This is the best we are going to get so lets all enjoy the show
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Post by HOMETIME on May 12, 2022 14:39:22 GMT
Yeah, I really can't wait to hear what the punters think. There'll definitely be reviewers who'll trash the show no matter what, but the audience will be the best barometer.
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Post by lamont on May 12, 2022 14:39:52 GMT
Unfortunately, I probably won't be able to get to the concert, however I will be surprised if it is not popular/successful. If Mamma Mia (theatre show) can run for nearly 25 years, with other people singing the songs, then I can't see any reason why the concert won't succeed. It has to be seen for what it is really, a good night out, not an intimate affair with die-hard fans like us! I'd like to think it will run and run, but I think Vegas may be the long term venue. Maybe that would mean there will be a DVD of the show for most of us who can't get to Vegas!? Can't see that affecting Vegas ticket sales! We must not forget also, how much hard work has gone in to this. I wonder if rehearsals in the venue have actually been done yet? I can't imagine with all that technology that it will only be tested out a couple of nights before opening!!! I feel positive about it, we all need that these days!! I think a music video for one song, or more like Don’t Shut Me Down, would be great exposure for the show. The lyric video has 21 million views. I’m hoping a video will be produced for promo. |
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Post by tagaytay on May 12, 2022 14:40:39 GMT
The post by Tagaytay was totally unnecessary. My last post was on the concert. He could have commented on that. But he chose to involve himself and join in the anti-Johnny posts yes, my posts are unnecessary while your posts are all very necessary. Yes, i could have commented on what you want me to comment on, not be involved and be pro-Johnny. point taken sir. |
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Post by lamont on May 12, 2022 14:46:38 GMT
Is there going to be a thread for the live shows on 26th or 27th that can include a “spoiler’s” notice so that the set list and any fan reviews of the show can be listed here without spoiling it for fans who don’t want to read them?
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Post by welshboy on May 12, 2022 14:48:02 GMT
This is meant to be a fun place were Abba fans can meet and chat about the best band in the world. What's going on Here?.
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Post by Alan on May 12, 2022 16:19:16 GMT
Sorry, I’ve not been on since I made my last post. Thanks to HOMETIME for your post which I fully support, and apologies to tagaytay that you were insulted. Hometime reminded me of some of the offensive names used by Johnny at the time of that tantrum. Obviously I deleted the posts but that really doesn’t change anything. johnny, I can’t really allow you to continue saying what you want and not caring who you upset, so I do hope you learn from this and we can all move on. If not then, well…. but please don’t let it get that far. |
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Post by Alan on May 12, 2022 16:21:08 GMT
Is there going to be a thread for the live shows on 26th or 27th that can include a “spoiler’s” notice so that the set list and any fan reviews of the show can be listed here without spoiling it for fans who don’t want to read them? It’s a good idea. Anyone can start such a thread. |
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Post by Jilly L on May 12, 2022 16:31:34 GMT
I wouldn’t be surprised if about 30% of those watching Voyage between May and September watch it again in the autumn. A lot of punters of these residencies are people who watch it more than once! Plus, there will be the word of mouth effect.
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Post by Alan on May 12, 2022 16:38:19 GMT
Alan is right when he says dvd sales are not what they are. But you can say the same about cd sales and we got the voyage album. There could be a downloadable digital version. To say there won't be, at some stage, is to me, well, negative. OK, to help things get back on track, let’s look at this. I don’t think I said there wouldn’t be a DVD/Blu-ray ever - how could I, it’s not up to me! - but I wouldn’t rely on it. They want people to see the show so I think it’s a bit optimistic to think that there would be one any time soon. It was supposedly going to be in London for five years but that’s now possibly been changed (though to erect a building just for a few months seems a bit indulgent). After it leaves London - whenever that is - they could release it. However, these days numerous people video concerts on their phones, so I suspect an entire show (probably in several parts) will find its way onto YouTube or other such sites. As ABBA’s management or record company seem to block anything not uploaded by them, it remains to be seen how long it will last. Will certainly be worth checking though. I haven’t seen anything to say they’re banning photos or videos from being taken at the venue. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2022 17:10:40 GMT
Alib, I also, won't be able to attend the concert as I can't drive and relying on public transport is very " hit and miss " in this day and age. Also, the price of tickets is very expensive. I am distraught I won't be there to experience the concert. As much as I would like to go, I have to be honest and practical weighing up the pros and cons. It is very daunting travelling to the capital in today's world.
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Post by Michal on May 12, 2022 19:07:44 GMT
Oh, this is getting ridiculous. A little bit more of the moralizing stuff and I will probably be next to delete my account. I'd say let's stop the witch-hunt and move on back to ABBA. This thread was meant to be about the Voyage concerts but now it should probably be re-christened "Johnny the troublemaker and his opponents"...
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Post by lamont on May 12, 2022 19:41:52 GMT
I wouldn’t be surprised if about 30% of those watching Voyage between May and September watch it again in the autumn. A lot of punters of these residencies are people who watch it more than once! Plus, there will be the word of mouth effect. If I like it I’ll be back! And I’ll drag my family & friends! |
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