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Post by gazman on Aug 28, 2021 10:54:42 GMT
Well, I only have one other question right now....
CAN IT BE TRUE? :-)
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Post by HOMETIME on Aug 28, 2021 11:00:09 GMT
Well, if it's a hoax, someone has immense amounts of money to waste on massive billboards in London! It's nice to feel this giddy again  |
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Post by justabba on Aug 28, 2021 11:41:43 GMT
Well, if it's a hoax, someone has immense amounts of money to waste on massive billboards in London! It's nice to feel this giddy again Don't misunderstand me! ABBA Voyage is real and official. Its just the video that was fan made. Btw, latest I'm hearing is that not one but 2 new songs are scheduled for release next Friday, but nothing official yet of course! |
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Post by HOMETIME on Aug 28, 2021 12:01:55 GMT
Oh, I totally get you!
Two new songs?! Possibly....
I was thinking recently about the late 1982 singles and how, some time ahead of their release, new titles were mentioned in the ABBA magazine - Just Like That and I Am The City. And as we know, neither of them emerged (for more than a decade). Can you imagine if I Still Have Faith In You and/or Don't Shut Me Down were not among the songs released? If one of the (possibly) two songs released next week is not a title we've heard, it could lend credence to the more-than-two-possibly-five-possibly-more rumours that have grown over the past couple of years.
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Post by justabba on Aug 28, 2021 12:31:46 GMT
Oh, I totally get you! Two new songs?! Possibly.... I was thinking recently about the late 1982 singles and how, some time ahead of their release, new titles were mentioned in the ABBA magazine - Just Like That and I Am The City. And as we know, neither of them emerged (for more than a decade). Can you imagine if I Still Have Faith In You and/or Don't Shut Me Down were not among the songs released? If one of the (possibly) two songs released next week is not a title we've heard, it could lend credence to the more-than-two-possibly-five-possibly-more rumours that have grown over the past couple of years. It's entirely possible better songs have emerged since then. However, the fact they have made a video for faith would make be believe that will still be the lead single. The second track could be something we know nothing of to date. Hopefully all is revealed come thursday evening! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2021 15:51:52 GMT
I would be interested to know if any of you would be happy with maybe the mentioned 5 new songs and a possible 3 more, (to make up an album), that already existed but have been reworked/improved on, say, 'just like that'? I would not mind that at all. Also, has anyone heard any info on whether Michael Tretow has been involved at all?
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Post by foreverfan on Aug 28, 2021 16:20:43 GMT
Have just been announced.... as the extra 5 tracks.........
Autumn Breezes, Voyage, I Miss you, Stardust, Goodbye. plus the two we know about.....
Only kidding, lol, sorry couldn't resist, As long as we get a New Album, I'd put up with a Vault track or even a reworking.. but foremost a New Album of new tracks please..
Sorry if i got you going.....
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Post by breifne on Aug 28, 2021 16:41:43 GMT
That was almost funny Foreverfan - the titles sounded good but at this stage only 5 songs would be disappointing !
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Post by Alan on Aug 28, 2021 17:07:06 GMT
I would be interested to know if any of you would be happy with maybe the mentioned 5 new songs and a possible 3 more, (to make up an album), that already existed but have been reworked/improved on, say, 'just like that'? It depends what you mean by reworked/improved on. If you mean complete re-recordings then possibly. If you just mean slightly remixed or whatever then no, as I don’t think the new songs should be placed alongside old recordings just to make up the numbers. Just five new songs shouldn’t be a disappointment, but at this stage I would see it as that. Or at least a wasted opportunity. Two songs as originally announced, and released in 2018 would have been fine. A full album would be perfect. If there isn’t a complete album then I’m not sure they’ve done enough to prepare us for that. The rumours have been allowed to persist and not properly denied. If there are just five, then why not five more? It’s neither one nor the other. Even with the pandemic, they’ve still had enough time to record more new songs. Also, if that trailer isn’t official, then they’ve been caught out for failing to do anything themselves. If they can’t get it right now, does that mean there is some disappointment to follow? Someone mentioned I Am The City and Just Like That being announced in 1982 but not released. This was because they were recorded for an album which was then abandoned. As neither was considered good enough for single release, and they wanted two songs to add to a compilation, they then recorded three more for that purpose. That situation shouldn’t apply this time round, but there might still be a parallel. Six songs wasn’t enough for a new album then and five isn’t now. Once again, ABBA would come up short. |
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Post by gamleman on Aug 28, 2021 17:32:46 GMT
I would be happy with 5 songs plus a finishing off of "Just Like That" plus maybe others, such as "Under My Sun", but I don't want to revisit "I Am The City". Some ABBA versions of B&B songs like "Nobody's Side", "Heaven Help My Heart" and "Story Of A Heart" would be nice too.
My feeling is that there may be 5 songs on purpose, as perhaps they don't want another complete album to their name and prefer to repeat something like "The Singles" double-album concept.
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Post by Alan on Aug 28, 2021 20:28:26 GMT
My feeling is that there may be 5 songs on purpose, as perhaps they don't want another complete album to their name and prefer to repeat something like "The Singles" double-album concept. Why would anyone want to repeat The Singles? None of them were really interested, it was contract-fulfilling and an acknowledgement that their time had passed. Albums may not sell a great deal these days but they still carry a lot of weight, and it’s ultimately how an act is remembered. In ABBA’s case even more so - has any other act released new music after 39 years in their full original line-up? Five songs would be great but it’s too wishy-washy. If they’re going to make all that effort to record five, then why not finish the job? Five is both too many and too few. |
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Post by justabba on Aug 29, 2021 9:15:59 GMT
According to Lasse Wellander the melodies are very strong, have the same hit potential as before and the voices of Agnetha and Frida are in top condition! Source Dutch newspaper quote by Nick Schilder from Nick and Simon.
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Post by HOMETIME on Aug 29, 2021 9:17:36 GMT
Nice little video clip now from Bjorn - seated at a recording studio mixing desk - thanking us for joining ABBA's musical journey "which never ends." The clip is attached to the post about "I Am The City." I'm not sure how to explain it to non-Instagram users, so good luck! Wonder if there'll be three more such videos? This is the text of the post from the ABBA account: - abba
- 'I Am The City’ remained unreleased from its recording back in 1982 but was included on the 1993 compilation album ‘More ABBA Gold: More ABBA Hits’. And thus, our musical journey ends for now. Swipe for an exclusive message from Björn! #ABBAVoyage
http://instagram.com/p/CTJqJayoqN5
 
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Post by gamleman on Aug 29, 2021 9:23:59 GMT
My feeling is that there may be 5 songs on purpose, as perhaps they don't want another complete album to their name and prefer to repeat something like "The Singles" double-album concept. Why would anyone want to repeat The Singles? None of them were really interested, it was contract-fulfilling and an acknowledgement that their time had passed. Albums may not sell a great deal these days but they still carry a lot of weight, and it’s ultimately how an act is remembered. In ABBA’s case even more so - has any other act released new music after 39 years in their full original line-up? Five songs would be great but it’s too wishy-washy. If they’re going to make all that effort to record five, then why not finish the job? Five is both too many and too few. I'm not suggesting this album may be a re-release and extension of "The Singles". I'm suggesting they might favour the concept of this double-album. As I have said before, the title "Voyage" may well indicate an album of ABBA's journey from 1972 to the present day. They could, for example, choose one song to represent each year (1972-1982), in chronological order, and add the new songs to the end (on a separate disc, be it CD or vinyl). If ABBA didn't want to be judged and compete in the rat-race of the charts on the basis of a whole new studio album, I think they might take this approach. On the other hand, "Voyage" may represent the journey they have taken in recent years from the conception of the ABBAtars project through the recording of new songs to the launch of the project, in which case it could be the title of a completely new studio album - they may surprise us with more than 5 songs. |
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Post by foreverfan on Aug 29, 2021 9:45:23 GMT
all very interesting...
This coming week Could be filled with little teasers.. keeps us all talking doesn't it.....just about 4 days to go.....
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Post by catfood on Aug 29, 2021 13:07:18 GMT
I would be surprised if they unearthed unreleased songs from 40 years ago. It's not like ABBA ended because Benny no longer could write melodies - but I guess anything is possible at this point. It would be plausible if they wanted to 'connect' the new tracks with old material. Old unused song fragments being recycled in new tracks would be no surprise, that was common to the way the boys worked.
On another note I've been shooting down false facts that keep getting re-added on Wikipedia about Voyage. Obviously Wikipedia should never be trusted for factual information, but in any case it's a place where a lot of people go to see what's going on. As far as I'm aware, practically nothing _factual_ has been revealed about Voyage so far. There's only the note that on Sept 2, something will happen. Anything beyond that is rumour and wishful thinking, albeit based on what's been revealed in the last couple of years. Still, people keep adding statements about new song(s) revealed or the avatar concerts announced (based on Metro (who quote The Sun)..!)...
Also, is there a valid source for there being 5 new songs?
Afaik, Tretow no longer works actively, after he had a stroke in 2001-ish (someone asked if he was involved). Bernard Löhr has engineered lots of recent B&B productions.
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Post by jj on Aug 29, 2021 14:23:35 GMT
What if we did a very quick poll here, something like:
Will you be very disappointed if there is no new ABBA album (with a minimum of 9 new songs) released in the next few months?
Answer:
YES,
NO,
ONLY SLIGHTLY (disappointed), or
DON'T REALLY CARE.
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Post by onlyabba4meagain on Aug 29, 2021 14:35:17 GMT
We may 'only' get 5 New Songs. If we do, is it right for any of us to feel 'cheated'
or 'disappointed'? After all, 5 New Songs is 5 more, than we ever expected to get
from ABBA, after all these Decades. (The truth is that, Benny & Bjorn, don't seem
to like going into the Past, to 'Up-Date', or 'Complete', Old, Unreleased ABBA Songs.
Or their Songs, that others have Recorded, since 1982. Which is why they may not
have bothered to take a 'Short Cut', to give us 9 or 10 Songs, on an entire Album,
by adding the 'Old' ones to the 5 New ones. Which is why we may still never, ever,
get 'Just Like That', 'Slowly', 'Story Of A Heart', and 'I Know Him So Well', as ABBA
Releases. The biggest Seller of them all is Murray Head's 'One night In Bangkok', but
I just cannot imagine an ABBA version of that. I love several Songs from 'Kristina',
such as 'Du Maste Finnas' and 'Guldet Blev Til Sand', and I'd love ABBA to do those,
but, it is never going to happen).
I've heard that 5 New ABBA Songs is being mentioned, on Media, all over the World.
Including in Sweden. It is being mentioned in the Swedish Press etc. Now, usually, if
the Swedish Media give out wrong ABBA 'News', ABBA's Friend and Spokes Person,
Gorel Hanser, quickly corrects them. She has yet to say that the Swedish Media has
got it wrong, about 5 New ABBA Songs. Does that mean that there really are 'only'
5, or are there more, but Gorel can't be bothered to correct the Media?
If we do 'only' get 5 New Songs, then I hope that the 'disappointed' Fans, don't
end up totally negative, (in their frustration), and start finding every little excuse,
to criticise the New Songs. It would not be the right thing to do, and a huge - and
uncalled for - disrespect to ABBA. We must not start having 'a go', at ABBA, if we
'only' get 5 New Songs. The World is horrible enough, without any Fans doing that.
Some Fans have suggested that we may get an Album, which has The ABBAtars
versions of ABBA Hits, (slightly Remixed), with the New ABBA Songs added on,
at the end. Sort of like The Beatles 'Love' Album, from 2006, which had Remixes
of 26 of their Songs on CD, and 28 on Digital. That was a big success. It sold over
5 Million Globally. (But, a lot of ABBA Fans don't want a 'Love' styled ABBA Album).
There are 'Rumours', that we will get 2 of the New Songs, as soon as Friday 3rd
September arrives. With the rest to follow, at a later Date.
Another 'Rumour' is that we will get an ABBA Album, on Friday 5th November.
Be it an entire New Album, a Remix Album, or an 'Ordinary' Compilation, with
the New Songs added, at the end. This would be 41 Years since the Release
of the 'Super Trouper' Album - Monday 3rd November 1980.
We can only wait and see what we get on Friday 3rd September...
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Post by gamleman on Aug 29, 2021 14:39:13 GMT
What if we did a very quick poll here, something like:
Will you be very disappointed if there is no new ABBA album (with a minimum of 9 new songs) released in the next few months?
Answer:
YES,
NO,
ONLY SLIGHTLY (disappointed), or
DON'T REALLY CARE.
- I have not expected a new studio album all along. I think it remarkable that they have even been recording music together again. It's a big leap from 2, 3, perhaps 5 new songs to a whole album, and we know they have high standards, so it's not just a case of knocking out 4+ further songs. I do, however, wish to see these songs as part of a package with its own identity, and not just a supplement to ABBA Gold - the "Voyage" 'branding' has reassured me of this. |
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Post by Alan on Aug 29, 2021 14:55:36 GMT
What if we did a very quick poll here, something like:
Will you be very disappointed if there is no new ABBA album (with a minimum of 9 new songs) released in the next few months?
Answer:
YES,
NO,
ONLY SLIGHTLY (disappointed), or
DON'T REALLY CARE.
I’ll have to say “only slightly”, in spite of my recent posts. However, I think there is reason to be more disappointed if only two songs materialise as they have had plenty of chances to deny five. They’ve had the opportunity to say there definitely isn’t a full album either, for that matter, but the five-song line has been too widely reported now, and if they don’t deliver on that it will seem a bit of an anti-climax. |
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Post by foreverfan on Aug 29, 2021 15:12:09 GMT
YES
I would be disappointed, but only from a personal point of view, I've lived in hope for 40 odd years that we will hear something, lived through the Solo albums, Chess etc etc and funnily enough always believed we would get something.
That something has now been built into a reality of some description, so Ill be happy in whatever we get, but its human nature, to a point, to want more, so yes Id love an album, but would be happy with 5 new tracks or would I ..lol
The fact that they are going to all this expense and promotion, you really do have to hope its more than a couple of singles and a show !! my old adadge will come true, as in Time Will Tell.. I hope Thursday/Friday isn't a disappointment, i have a feeling we will only be told a little with more to come, after all the show doesn't open until May 2022...
Still living in hope....
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Post by gamleman on Aug 29, 2021 15:20:57 GMT
I have to agree that any number of songs less than 5 would be disappointing, as they have had ample time to put us straight on this.
Regarding the rumour mentioned by onlyabba4meagain (which I hadn't heard) that the songs will be included on an album of hits remixed for the ABBAtars shows, I can't see this happening, not this year anyway. I think there will almost certainly be an 'ABBAtars' album, but only once the show has established itself - perhaps released for Christmas 2022. They won't reveal the ABBAtars mixes for the show before the first performance, I'm sure. And since they are supposed to be using a live band in the shows, I think this will effectively be a semi-live album.
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Post by jj on Aug 29, 2021 15:29:11 GMT
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Post by jj on Aug 29, 2021 15:58:24 GMT
For me, it's a YES, because I feel they've been well aware of this new album rumour for at least a year now and have had many opportunities to strenuously deny it, and yet they haven't. They've had 3 extra years and one has to imagine they've come up with and worked on more material in that time. Benny's main project, BAO, a group for which he writes tunes and which releases entire albums of new Benny tunes every few years has been mothballed over all of this time, too, with no new BAO album and not a single song released.
ABBA are well aware that fans have been waiting more than three years and it would be a wonderful gesture on ABBA's part to release a full album to make up for this.
YES , I will be quite disappointed if a new ABBA album of at least nine new songs isn't released in the next few months.
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Post by jj on Aug 29, 2021 16:19:19 GMT
I hope that the 'disappointed' Fans, don't end up totally negative, (in their frustration), and start finding every little excuse, to criticise the New Songs. It would not be the right thing to do, and a huge - and uncalled for - disrespect to ABBA. We must not start having 'a go', at ABBA, The World is horrible enough, without any Fans doing that..
I wouldn't worry too much, Colin. They're seasoned artists and they've had many decades to grow very thick skins. All famous artists get plenty of positive and negative feedback regardless of what they do. It's simply part and parcel of being famous. ABBA had mostly negative press for almost their entire career. I don't think they took such criticism to heart. They learned long ago to just ignore it, as all artists do.
They're all grown up now, Colin, so you don't need to protect them or worry about their feelings getting hurt! 
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Post by justabba on Aug 29, 2021 16:23:59 GMT
I hope that the 'disappointed' Fans, don't end up totally negative, (in their frustration), and start finding every little excuse, to criticise the New Songs. It would not be the right thing to do, and a huge - and uncalled for - disrespect to ABBA. We must not start having 'a go', at ABBA, The World is horrible enough, without any Fans doing that..
I wouldn't worry too much, Colin. They're seasoned artists and they've had many decades to grow very thick skins. All famous artists get plenty of positive and negative feedback regardless of what they do. It's simply part and parcel of being famous. ABBA had mostly negative press for almost their entire career. I don't think they took such criticism to heart. They learned long ago to just ignore it, as all artists do.
They're all grown up now, Colin, so you don't need to protect them or worry about their feelings getting hurt!
My first singing teacher taught me a very valuable lesson...he said critics were like eunuchs. They know how but they can't do it. Kept me in very good stead for 30 odd years!
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Post by catfood on Aug 29, 2021 16:43:48 GMT
I'm pessimistic or at least 'moderate' with my expectations. I doubt ABBA view themselves as a 'current' pop group or a pop act anymore, at all. That's apparent from Björn's surprised comments to the reaction of his casual remarks of them having recorded new music. They've obviously learnt how to relate to publicity and to take distance from the media and fans, over the years. What I'm saying is that they don't feel any obligation to do anything, not even after all the media hype. They will do whatever feels right to them. Also, they actually have very little to gain from all this new activity. They don't need any more fame, money, not even respect from years. They have already achieved it all. So I'd say they will have to feel 100% confident about anything 'new' they put out there. They could also suddenly decide the live shows would be 'enough'. It would be odd after the news from recent years and Björn's dfinite promises of new music - and I don't believe that will happen, but it is a possibility.
The billboards appearing in London and (afaia) and only there does suggest whatever's going to revealed will take place in London. It would be odd that they would advertise a new album with localized advertising. Is there any truth to the rumour that they've prepared some kind of documentary about the recent events? And that venue construction has started in London? If so, why would the screening of that be restricted to one venue and to London only? One possibility is that the doc is some kind of pre-show to the live/avatar show night, and/or somehow uses the same technology, so that it can't be shown in standard cinemas.
I bet they have decided to keep total radio silence after they noticed Björn's casual remarks about new track(s) exploded in the media. What good could denying the existence of 5 tracks do to them? Better let the rumours live a life of their own. Of course fans will start dreaming about a whole album and some will obviously be disappointed if we don't get at least one new track next week. Having said that, the possibility of more than 2 new tracks has been hinted (I'm unsure how reliable that info is), and obviously now they've had several years to make more. Still, I bet any of ABBA feel any pressure to meet outside expectations. It could even be that they recorded more than two but decided releasing two great new tracks would be the perfect swansong, a cap to their recording career. "Voyage" could well be the title of the avatar show and nothing more. Could be that all that happens next week is that they reveal details about it.
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Post by abbafanie on Aug 29, 2021 16:50:47 GMT
More teasing from the ABBA social media accounts...is this an instrumental of a new track I wonder?
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Post by HOMETIME on Aug 29, 2021 16:53:01 GMT
Now that sound like new music to me!
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Post by gamleman on Aug 29, 2021 17:10:04 GMT
Sounds new but they're not revealing very much, are they?
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