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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2021 21:46:35 GMT
It looks like Voyage will top 400,000 sales in UK within next few days.
I can't see the appeal of Adele. Her new album is just a snorefest.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2021 23:26:07 GMT
Adam, LT has grown on me a lot. Agnetha and Frida's joint vocals are beautiful. I am surprised that ABBA's Christmas single hasn't fared that well. Today's music charts are fickle to say the least. I agree there is a lot of rubbish in today's pop charts. I too quite like the Elton John and Ed Sheeran Christmas collaboration. Let's be happy that " Voyage " is continuing to sell.
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Post by AdamDawson2003 on Dec 26, 2021 0:47:16 GMT
I am so thrilled that I got to experience new ABBA music at the age of 31 as I wasn't born during their heyday in the 70s and early 80s its been a wonderful time for me as an ABBA fan and I recently caught my best friend who has stated that he doesn't like ABBA's music singing along to 'Don't Shut Me Down' & 'Just A Notion' it really made me feel so thrilled that ABBA's music can make anyone sing along to their songs he was singing along to the second chorus of 'Don't Shut Me Down', 'he then replied I don't normally like ABBA's music but this song is absolutely awesome no way can anyone sound this good over the age of 70'.
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Post by Alan on Dec 26, 2021 11:43:01 GMT
I heard Voyage yesterday for the first time in ages (in December I only tend to listen to Christmas music). My sister played it on Spotify at theirs. It was background music as we were playing games, but was good to hear it again.
I’m finding that Bumble Bee is sinking into the background for me. I never look forward to it and am always kind of glad when it’s over. It is a lovely song but breaks up the flow of the album a bit. In fact, in that respect it’s very much like Voulez-Vous. On there there’s I Have A Dream and Chiquitita breaking up the two sides, and on Voyage it’s Little Things and Bumble Bee. I Can Be That Woman is a ballad, but because it’s an interesting story it’s a highlight of the whole album. Little Things most certainly isn’t and Bumble Bee misses the mark for me.
On the plus side, Just A Notion is definitely growing on me. That one fits perfectly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2021 11:56:13 GMT
Alan, I agree with you about Little Things and Bumblebee. I just don't like me. Infact Bumblebee just passes over me. I can never really remember it. They are the only songs on Voyage I don't like. I like the varied mix on the album both in terms of tempo and music style. I just don't get those songs. Just a Notion has grown on me too.
I think the best songs are the first two singles - I Still Have Faith in You and Don't Shut Me Down.
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Post by Michal on Dec 26, 2021 16:07:44 GMT
Had they not taken the two biggest current acts on the planet on they would be enjoying their 6th week at number one. I still think they should have waited until next year... And the same can be said about Ed Sheeran I'm glad the album's out. The wait was long enough...
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Post by Michal on Dec 26, 2021 16:12:22 GMT
It upsets me to realise that ABBA's new songs are only bringing interest to ABBA fans instead of non ABBA fans I really wanted 'Little Things' to be UK Christmas Number 1... I think nobody seriously expected Little Things to reach No.1 But obviously the new ABBA songs (not only Little Things) were popular among non ABBA fans too (or casual ABBA fans as opposed to hard cores), because otherwise they would hardly climb so high in the charts.
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Post by Alan on Dec 26, 2021 19:11:17 GMT
Voyage has now equalled The Visitors back in 1981/82 for total number of top 10 weeks. Although it spent three weeks at number one, The Visitors only had two more in the top 3. Voyage has had six weeks in the top 3 so far.
The Visitors’ full top 10 placings were: 1, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6
Voyage’s so far are: 1, 2, 3, 4, 3, 3, 3
All very superficial and trivial, of course, as sales were much higher then than now and relied on just two physical formats and nothing else. Voyage has by far exceeded my expectations though - I thought that sales would be so heavily front-loaded that its number of top 10 weeks would be much more limited.
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Post by gazman on Dec 26, 2021 22:26:23 GMT
Amazon UK has dropped the price of the Voyage jewel case CD/the softpack CD to £6.99 and the 'eco box' to £9.99.
Not sure how long for - but handy if you wanted any of these formats and held off...
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Post by joseph on Dec 26, 2021 22:55:55 GMT
Dunno why anyone would be upset about Little Things not setting the charts alight when there are so many other things to still be happy about, AꓭBA-wise. I'm glad it didn't make number one- I don't particularly want AꓭBA to be remembered for a bloody Christmas song of all things! Having said that, I defend the song itself, even if it will never be a big favourite. For what it is, it's not bad at all. In fact, it's refreshingly different and miles better than the poxy Ed Sheeran and Elton John thing.
Little Things has over 3 million views on YouTube so that counts for something too, I guess. Many acts get far less than that. Maybe AꓭBA did a Christmas song to appease fans who've banged on about wanting one for years? I could live without it, but I was actually pleasantly surprised. It'll be low down on my Voyage top 10 but not because I think it's awful, simply because there are others that captivate me more- Dan, No Doubt About It, Ode To Freedom,...the first two singles.
Now, I'm just looking forward to having my Voyage concert experience next year. I pray they perform Lay All Your Love On Me.
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Post by gazman on Dec 26, 2021 23:13:42 GMT
The BBC has quite suddenly A-listed unspecified 'Tracks from Voyage' on its Radio 2 playlist from today's date. Perhaps as a result of clearing away the Christmas hits.
Will be interesting to see which tracks they feature most heavily.
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Post by madonnabba on Dec 27, 2021 2:54:37 GMT
I got bored of Christmas songs years ago. However the Ed song ticks all the boxes apart from allowing Elton John on it. Elton ruins it for me. Never taken to him. I think Lay all your love on me would have to be on the playlist of the Voyage production.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 11:20:16 GMT
Voyage chart and sales update.
No. 1 for Christmas in Sweden, Austria and Switzerland. Top 3 Finland, Belgium (Flanders), Germany, Netherlands, Ireland and of course UK.
Top selling album of 2021 in Germany and Switzerland. Almost certainly Sweden too.
Certifications
Platinumx2 Germany 400,000 Platinum UK 300,000 (386,000) Platinum France 100,000 Platinumx2 Sweden 60,000 Platinum Austria 15,000
Plus 140,000 pure sales in USA
Global sales 1.5 million plus.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 12:55:50 GMT
Anyone else feel the first two singles are the best songs from Voyage?
I get the impression by the end of the recording sessions they had run out of creativity.
Just a Notion, Bumblebee, Little Things recorded this year?
Anyone know what songs recorded when for the 8 after 2017?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 14:04:45 GMT
Johnny, I agree. ISHFIY and DSMD are stellar pop songs. Generally, I have always leaned towards the melancholy and introspective side to ABBA's music. However, my favourite from " Voyage " is DSMD. For once, it is an uplifting track that receives " my thumbs up ". ISHFIY is very beautiful and wistfully reflective. DSMD is an infectiously catchy pop anthem. Pure classic ABBA ! WYDWM, ICBTW, KAEOD, NDAI and OTF are all top tier ABBA. Also, I am very fond of JAN and BB. LT is very sweet and innocent and has grown on me I have to admit. Unfortunately I don't know any of the additional tracks that were recorded in 2017.
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Post by madonnabba on Dec 27, 2021 14:20:09 GMT
I love Bumble Bee and the environmental message. I think When you danced could have done with a final chorus. Seems to end abruptly. I wonder why Micheal was not involved in producing the album. The only song I am not keen on is LT. The choir and those lyrics at the end just make the whole song too twee. They could have easily extended some of the songs and left to song off the album. May have fared better as a stand alone single.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 14:25:14 GMT
Madonnabba, yes, WYDWM could have done with an extra verse but I still love it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 15:34:53 GMT
What I mean is: do people know what songs were recorded when.
We know ISHFIY and DSMD in 2017
3 in 2019
None in 2020 because of Covid
5 in 2021.
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Post by Alan on Dec 27, 2021 15:58:53 GMT
johnny, I think the only one we know for definite (apart from the first two singles) is Little Things, which is from 2021. The single sleeve confirms that. Disappointingly, Just A Notion’s CD single sleeve did not specify a date, just 1978 and 2017-2021 (unless the new backing track was worked on in both years). Covid isn’t necessarily the reason they didn’t record in 2020. They didn’t do anything in 2018 either (perhaps this was when the five-week motion capture shows took place?). The first two songs were from later in 2017, and it appears they didn’t reconvene until January 2019. The snow photo dates from then. It’s unlikely three songs took a year to record, so it’s possible they weren’t doing anything for a whole 12 months prior to the start of the pandemic in March 2020. I would hazard a guess that the decision to record more songs in order to have enough for a full album was made partly because of Covid. The media had rumoured an album before then, but the pandemic meant that they had more time than expected before the ABBATars show would be ready. And probably the record company pointed out to them that five songs was neither one thing nor the other: either just do two or ten but don’t stop halfway. I’m sure Carl Magnus Palm will be availed with the information in due course, and write a whole book out of it…
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Post by Michal on Dec 27, 2021 16:16:48 GMT
I’m sure Carl Magnus Palm will be availed with the information in due course, and write a whole book out of it… He postponed the publishing date of his newest book (a companion to The Complete Recording Sessions) several times, stating the delay in release of the new songs as one of the reasons, so I'm quite sure there will an account on Voyage in it.
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Post by gary on Dec 27, 2021 23:43:02 GMT
Anyone else feel the first two singles are the best songs from Voyage? I get the impression by the end of the recording sessions they had run out of creativity. Just a Notion, Bumblebee, Little Things recorded this year? Anyone know what songs recorded when for the 8 after 2017? Yes, the first two singles are certainly my favourites on the album. I can understand why B&B might have been quite excited by them, and even decided to revive ABBA to record them. But the creativity evident on those two songs is lacking on the rest of the album. There are very few sparks of genius around. I think the fact that they dragged up Just A Notion suggests Benny may have been having trouble filling the album.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2021 10:06:07 GMT
Yes, the first two singles are certainly my favourites on the album. I can understand why B&B might have been quite excited by them, and even decided to revive ABBA to record them. But the creativity evident on those two songs is lacking on the rest of the album. There are very few sparks of genius around. I think the fact that they dragged up Just A Notion suggests Benny may have been having trouble filling the album. Yes, it looks like that with regards Just a Notion. Little Things and Bumblebee can be added to the filler list. Overall I like the album but there clearly are fillers on it.
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Post by syl on Dec 28, 2021 12:05:42 GMT
VOYAGE is a very beautiful album for me. When I heard that Abba would come out with a brand new album, I couldn't wait. was so curious. I must say that I am certainly not disappointed, because the album is for me as I expected from ABBA. great song that just gives me goosebumps so very beautiful. What I do wonder is whether the hologram is really what one would expect from a real concert. Been to a concert myself in the year 1979. I was completely blown away so amazing. hologram will certainly be very well made and since Benny and Björn go for perfection.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2021 18:36:07 GMT
Hi Syl, it is indeed a very beautiful album and the beginning of September and November will never be forgotten. I probably have expressed my appreciation and gratitude to ABBA for their wonderful comeback album " Voyage " many times and why not.
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Post by joseph on Dec 28, 2021 19:07:12 GMT
I wouldn't refer to any of the tracks on Voyage as filler. Certainly not Bumblebee which Frida said she put her heart into when singing it (or words to that effect). Just because a song doesn't float your boat doesn't mean it's filler. Like with Little Things...some people won't like it because they find it too 'sweet' but some people have a sweet tooth and some prefer savoury. Neither are intrinsically bad, it's simply a question of taste. Someone's preference doesn't make it fact.
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Post by Michal on Dec 28, 2021 20:19:22 GMT
I wouldn't refer to any of the tracks on Voyage as filler. Actually I don't think any song from the whole ABBA catalogue can be called a filler (maybe with the exception of some of the tracks on the first album). Certainly they were never considered to be just fillers by Björn and Benny at the time they were recording them. Another thing is that they may regret inclusion of some later but never at the time of completing the album. If the track was not considered good enough, it was not released.
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Post by Alan on Dec 28, 2021 20:55:09 GMT
Super Deluxe Edition includes Voyage in its albums of the year:
“Recording a comeback album 40 years after your last and NOT GETTING IT WRONG is an incredible feat. The ‘ABBAtar’ show will most likely be a great success, but if it Isn’t, it will just be one of those things… An interesting, failed experiment. Whereas a new album that fails to deliver will blight your discography forever – you won’t be allowed to forget the misstep. Happily, for Björn, Agnetha, Benny and Frida, the Voyage hits the sweet spot.
”At its best – ‘Don’t Shut Me Down’, ‘I Still Have Faith In You’, ‘Ode To Freedom’ – the album approaches some of the band’s best work in the late 1970s but even the tracks that don’t reach those heights – ‘When You Danced With Me’, ‘Bumblebee’, ‘No Doubt About It’ – have so much charm and are so much fun, that it really doesn’t matter. There are echoes from the past all over the place, which just makes the whole thing pure ABBA.
”The secret of Voyage‘s success was the so-called ‘trend-blind’ approach. Most artists returning from a long spell away instinctively put the feelers out with a view to collaborating with the hip/successful producer or writer of the era. Labels and management may advise that it will increase the artist’s chances of having a hit or getting radio play (SDE’s recent interview revealed that Tears For Fears have experienced this very phenomenon in recent years) . But Benny and Bjorn did no such thing. They didn’t want their album to be produced by Stuart Price (to pick an example). To paraphrase F1 driver Kimi Räikkönen, they know what they’re doing. So the two men wrote songs together exactly as they used to. They used a small trusted team of musicians and engineers; had no interest in sounding ‘contemporary’; and removed any pressure from the enterprise by vowing that if the album wasn’t any good, they’d simply not release it. It’s not like they needed the money.
”Voyage was, and is, a wonderful gift to music fans of a certain age and ABBA even released four CD singles (albeit miserly one-track affairs) which raised a smile at the time. It really did feel like ‘the old days’ at times.”
I think “I Can Be That Woman” was singled out as a lowpoint in SDE’s original review of the album. Seems to have been replaced by WYDWM, Bumble Bee and NDAI - Little Things appears to have avoided such a mention.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2021 21:08:21 GMT
I agree with this from SDE
"At its best – ‘Don’t Shut Me Down’, ‘I Still Have Faith In You’, ‘Ode To Freedom’ – the album approaches some of the band’s best work in the late 1970s" These are the best tracks. They really are up there with ABBA's best.
LT and BB are the worst They are the only ones I dislike. JAN has grown in me. Of the rest NDAI and KAEOD are better songs than WYDWM and ICBTW in my opinion.
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Post by tagaytay on Dec 29, 2021 1:59:17 GMT
I wouldn't refer to any of the tracks on Voyage as filler. Certainly not Bumblebee which Frida said she put her heart into when singing it (or words to that effect). Just because a song doesn't float your boat doesn't mean it's filler. Like with Little Things...some people won't like it because they find it too 'sweet' but some people have a sweet tooth and some prefer savoury. Neither are intrinsically bad, it's simply a question of taste. Someone's preference doesn't make it fact. I agree, I noticed that a number of vocal fans dislike Little Things because its sweet or twee. i know theres a number of other people whether fans or superfans who like the song but not just vocal about it. Social media can sometimes make the vocalized opinions seem the dominant one. I liked Little Things from the start, it didnt have to grow on me. I must confess that Dont shut me down took a few listens before I liked it and its now one of my favorites in the album. Voyage is one album i dont skip ANY song. In some of their past albums there may be one song i dont listen to or skip (e.g two for the price of one, me and I, man in the middle, etc).
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Post by foreverfan on Dec 29, 2021 10:44:14 GMT
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