It's all very encouraging , its looking a strong possibility for reaching the top 10 the closer we get to MM2 release, all without any promotion of Gold by Universal, who must be rubbing there hands together ....
So, 'ABBA Gold' has risen from No.23 to No.15, in today's UK Album Chart - W/E 24th May. (After it fell from No.15 to No.23, last Week!)
Today I sent The 6 OCC, (Official UK Charts), Staff that I know, the 'Chart Feat' of 'ABBA Gold' reaching 104 Weeks -- 2 Years - in the UK Top 20. I also pointed out that it is only the 16th Album to reach 2 Years, (or more), in the Top 20. It is also only the 10th Artist Album to manage it. The Album with the most Top 75 Weeks is 'Legend' by Bob Marley & The Wailers - 582 Weeks. But, 'only' 62 Weeks - so far - have been in in the Top 20... (The OCC Staff have added the 104 Week/2 Years 'ABBA Gold' Top 20 Weeks Feat to this Weeks UK Album Chart Article).
'ABBA Gold' sold approximately 3,300 copies, to rise to No.15, this Week. Its 2018 UK Sales are already just under 50,000, and that is before the 'boost' it will get, when 'Mamma Mia! 2' is released, to Cinemas, in July...
Hey people - Great News to share! Abba Gold - Greatest Hits today scores it's 104th week in the UK Top 20 and shoots back up to No.15 in the UK Album Chart from No.23 last week. It now has 2 magic years in the UK Top 20 out of the 25 and a half years since it's release. In total it now has spent 837 weeks on the UK Album Chart.
On Sunday here in the UK , channel 5 had a whole evening of ABBA, hours and hours.
in the midweek charts it has a small change and a huge change...
Gold rises 1 place to 29
Mamma Mia rises from 85 to 33 , ironically its first official week on the UK main album chart if it stays there, which it should, it remains to be seen how well they will do once MM2 is released, but it's looking promising.
Graham - Don't forget, ABBA only had a few hours of Sunday Night, for their UK Sales to be boosted by yesterday's 'ABBA Night' on Channel 5. (The final Sales for Monday's Mid Week Charts are by Midnight on Sunday). It is those few hours of boosted Sales that caused 'ABBA Gold' to rise to No.29 in today's Mid Week Chart. It was at No.33 in Friday's Weekly Chart, so it has risen by 4 places really. (You don't go by where it was in last Monday's Mid Week Chart - No.30. You compare Friday's Weekly Chart to today's Monday Mid Week Chart - No.33 up to No.29).
'ABBA Gold' will likely rise further by this coming Friday. It was at No.10 in this morning's UK Amazon CD Top 100 & No.8 in their Top 100 Digital Download Chart. It was also at No.11 in the UK iTunes Chart.
The 'Mamma Mia!' CD - as you said - was at No.33 in today's UK Mid Week Chart. Its 1st Week in the UK Top 75. (Although Friday will see it have its 520th Week in the UK Soundtrack Chart - its 10th Year).
Unless the 2nd 'Mamma Mia!' Film is truly awful & it flops, it is almost certain that its Soundtrack will enter the UK Top 75 at No.1 or No.2 in late July. (Just as the 1st Film's Soundtrack would have entered at No.2, had that been allowed into the Artist Album Chart in 2008. Then it would have risen to No.1 for several Weeks. (Preventing 'ABBA Gold' from getting those 2 extra No.1 Weeks at that time - its 7th & 8th No.1 Weeks).
I see that the 1st 'Mamma Mia!' Film was shown on ITV3 tonight at 8 pm.
It is worrying that Universal have still not given Amazon or HMV etc. the Tracklist for the 2nd 'Mamma Mia!' Soundtrack Album. It really is time that it was revealed, as a lot of people will simply not pre-order it until they see exactly what ABBA Songs are on it. It really should have been revealed by now. Especially as 'Waterloo' is ruined by Hugh Skinner being totally unable to sing! Which means that only 'When I Kissed The Teacher' is worth listening to, of the measly 2 Tracks, that have been released so far. There are 16 Songs, on the Soundtrack, that we are unaware of. There will be about 24 or 25 ABBA Songs in the Film, but only 18 of them will be on the Soundtrack CD
In today's Thursday UK Mid Week Chart 'ABBA Gold' has fallen from yesterday's No.22 Position to No.24.
We will see where it is in tomorrow's UK Charts - for the entire Week.
The 'Mamma Mia!' Motion Picture Cast Recording has fallen from No.39 out of the Top 40. We won't know where it is until tomorrow's Weekly Top 100, as The OCC only allow Top 40 Positions to be revealed in the Mid Week Charts.
Just a note of caution, and hope I'm wrong.... Here in the UK, it's not going to be for gone conclusion that the New Releases later this and next year will hit number one, or even the charts( this I really doubt), but having a hit single is incredibly hard these days for older acts, ( I know this has been talked about before) , however the example I give, it's quite possible that Drake ( a artist I know precious little about! ) will have 3 hit singles in the UKs top 5 singles chart ,this week, based on streaming alone, thanks to a change, on how the charts are compiled a maximum of only 3 from one album are alllowed to chart, it could've been so many more 10 11 12.....Like Ed Shreens last year a totally dominated top 20. Streaming is incredibly powerful for the younger generation. It is conceivable that ABBA could struggle. More changes are due soon where video streaming adds to the total, so unless a great video another hinderance, at the moment there appears more against than fore, we have to hope I Still Have Faith In You is exceptional with even a tinge of Christmas added in to be that 10th number one here in the UK.
Graham -- The 2 New ABBA Singles will certainly be UK Hits, in both the Main 'Singles' Chart and in the 'Sales' Singles Chart. The Main Chart combines 'Streaming', Downloads and Physical Sales.
CHRISTMAS No.1 -- ABBA and/or Universal are 'aiming' the December Single at the UK's Christmas No.1 spot. It is released on Saturday 15th December. This means that it will enter the 'Singles' Chart on Friday 21st December. Which is the Christmas No.1 Chart - W/E Thursday 27th December. That December 15th release date has obviously been chosen, to try to get ABBA the Christmas No.1.
DRAKE -- As you point out, he will have 3 of the UK Top 5 'Singles' this Week. If the '3 Hits Only' Rule did not exist, he would have 23 Songs in the Top 40, this Week!
'Old' Acts can still have Hits in the Main Chart, What they find very hard to do, is to get into the Top 10.
George Ezra currently has the UK No.1 ' Single'with 'Shotgun'. It has no Physical release.
Here are its No.1 Sales -- George Ezra -- Shotgun -- Download Sales - 18,823 + 'Streaming' Points - 34,873 = 53,696 Total 'Sales'
As you can see - a huge ABBA Single can easily over-ride such a Total.
A combination of 'I Still Have Faith In You''s Totals for CD Single Sales + 7 Inch Vinyl Sales + Download Sales, should be so big, that it outsells all of the Singles that are big on 'Streaming', in the Christmas Chart.
The ABBA Single would 'only' need to sell about 65,000 to 75,000, in Week 1, and it would enter at No.1 in the UK.
Can ABBA do it? Of course they can. There is a huge hype about that 1st New Single, in December.
Then there will be a similar hype and fuss, when 'Don't Shut Me Down' is released next March to June.
Blimey, wouldn’t it be amazing if ABBA could have a tenth number one? I’m 58 years old, and I haven’t cared about a chart position for at least 30 years! Pretty obviously, the decisive thing about whether ABBA gets to number one is what the competition is. Let’s keep our fingers crossed (and buy the single)!
Does anyone know if the single is a simultaneous worldwide release?
Gary -- 'I Still Have Faith In You' will be released everywhere on Saturday 15th December.
Benny & Bjorn have said that, that is the date that the 2 Hour 'Global ABBA Special' will be shown on TV.
'I Still Have Faith In You' will be shown at the end of that - being 'sung' by the 4 ABBATars.
Once the New Song is performed, it will be available to Download, and to buy on CD Singles and 7 Inch Vinyl.
The release of 'I Still Have Faith In You' is completely tied in with it being performed on that ABBA TV Special...
ABBA and Universal want to make it an 'Event' that the 1st New ABBA Single in Decades is being released.
Some Media Critics will tear the Single apart and say it is 'rubbish' - no matter how good it is. But, they never liked ABBA anyhow, so nobody need pay any attention to them.
Some ABBA Fans wanted ABBA to never, ever to Record any more New Music, so some of those people will also say that the Single is 'not very good' - to try to justify carrying on moaning that 'ABBA should never have returned'. We can ignore those ABBA Fans, too. The 'Doom and Gloom Merchants', I call them.
The rest of us - like ABBA - will just see it all as being part of a New 'Adventure' with ABBA. An 'Adventure' that could end up with ABBA giving us a brand New Studio Album! (They will hardly care to bother, if too many of their own Fans start saying that the New Singles are 'Crap'!!! ABBA would think that we are ungrateful).
I'm going to support the 2 New Singles - no matter what - and I will buy each 3 times - once as a CD Single, once as a 7 Inch Vinyl Single and once as a Download. I cannot predict that I'll like every note of both Singles, but ABBA deserve our support and I urge all ABBA Fans to buy the 2 Singles in all 3 Formats...
if Drake is allowed only 3 out of 23 tracks to chart , and those 23 tracks would've charted mostly in the top 20, therefore by deduction the chart is actually false and not truely reflective ?as those tracks would've counted... emmmmm
Graham -- I know of no UK Charts where everything that sold enough could enter.
In the 1960's EP's were 'banned' from the Singles Chart, and they had to have their own Chart. By EP's, I mean 7 Inch Singles that had 4 Tracks on them.
The Beatles 'Twists & Shout' EP was not allowed into the Official Singles Chart because of the ban. Instead it spent 21 Weeks at No.1 in the EP Chart, and 64 Weeks on that Chart over-all.
Likewise, in Mid January 1989, Various Artists Albums were banned from the Official UK Albums Chart. They had to go into the Compilation Chart, from then on. A lot of Artist No.1 Albums would not have reached No.1 had Various Artists Albums still been allowed into the Artist Chart. Mid 1989 also saw Film Soundtracks banned from the Chart.
In 2008 'ABBA Gold' would not have returned to No.1 for 2 Weeks, had Film Soundtracks still been allowed into the Artist Chart. 'Gold' would have been held off the No.1 spot by the 'Mamma Mia!' Soundtrack. 'Mamma Mia!' would have been No.1 for 7 Weeks had it been allowed into the Artist Chart, at that time. (2008).
There are all kinds of Rules that decide what can & cannot get into the Charts.
ABBA's '18 Hits' is at a Budget price at the moment, so it can only get into the UK's Budget Chart. It has been No.2, in that Chart, for the past few Weeks. But, the Scottish Album Chart has different Rules. It can get into that Chart and it is currently on its 2nd Week at No.29. (It Peaked at No.15 in the UK Artist Chart, in 2008 & at No.11 in Scotland, that same Year).
My friend John used to say that the UK Charts meant nothing, due to all of the Rules about what can and cannot be a Hit.
I just go along with Chart Rules. It is not I who make them. I can either accept them or not.
The 3 Songs Rule was made to stop 'Streaming' allowing an Act to get every Track on his or her Albums into the 'Singles' Chart. I'd rather that Drake had 20 Songs banned from the Top 40, than Drake having 23 Songs in that same Top 40. That goes for any other 'Modern' big Act.
'I Still Have Faith In You' will be released everywhere on Saturday 15th December.
Benny & Bjorn have said that, that is the date that the 2 Hour 'Global ABBA Special' will be shown on TV.
Thanks for that information, Colin. I figured someone here would post that information, but I didn't think it would happen this soon. I'll have to look at the calendar and see what day of the week December 15 will be.
A few Months ago I'm sure that I read that ABBA's 2 Hour Tribute Show would be Broadcast on Saturday 15th December.
That they would sing 'I Still Have Faith In You' on it and the Single would be released the same Day - 15th December.
That would have seen its 1st 'Weeks' Sales cover Saturday 15th December to Thursday 20th December. Which would be the UK Singles Chart of W/E 27th December. Which would be the Christmas No.1 Chart.
However, it seems that ABBA are now releasing the Single 2 Weeks earlier - on Saturday 1st December. That would cover the UK Sales Week of Saturday 1st December to Thursday 6th December. Which is for the UK Singles Chart of W/E 13th December.
That would give the ABBA Single 3 Weeks/Charts to reach No.1 in time for Christmas - W/E 27th December.
I don't know if the 2 Hour Tribute Show will now be shown on Saturday December 1st or on Saturday December 15th.
We will know pretty quickly, if ABBA can have a 10th UK No.1 Single, or if a lack of 'Streaming' makes it impossible for ABBA to even reach the Top 10. This 'Streaming' curse affects a lot of 'Old' Acts, which is why Madonna, Kylie, Take That and Robbie Williams, cannot have UK Top 10 Singles any more. Their success is now mainly based on the Album Chart...
'ABBA Gold' has done this in the Mid Weeks: Monday - No.21, Tuesday - No.22, Wednesday - No.22 and Thursday - No.22
All of which means that ABBA related CD's will have 3 places in next Week's UK Top 30 as 'Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again' will enter the Chart of W/E 19th July 2018 in the Top 10. (Most likely in the Top 5).
Graham -- I'm not expecting much, (if any), Singles success due to 'Mamma Mia! 2'.
There wasn't much from 'Mamma Mia! 1'.
It is the World's Album Charts where the 2nd Film will have its success.
Then later in the Year, the World's DVD Charts.
I doubt very much if 'Fernando' will be much of a Hit anywhere. Apart from anything else, Cher is an 'Old Act' and they struggle to have Hit Singles, due to a lack of 'Streaming'. Which is why Kylie Minogue recently had a UK No.1 Album, but the 2 Singles off it got no higher than No.38 and No.42. Also why Madonna has not had a UK Top 10 Single since 2009.
In the USA Billboard 'Adult Contemporary' Chart, 'Fernando', by Cher, went in at No.22. But it was down to No.26 in Week 2.
Have any mistakes been made with the 2nd Film & Soundtrack?
Yes. Universal left it far too long to say what the full Track List was.
There are only 18 Songs on the Soundtrack, and that is several less than for Film 1.
Too many of the 18 Tracks are slow Songs.
They repeated too many Songs from Film 1.
They let that awful Male 'singer' ruin the start of 'Kisses Of Fire'.
Elsewhere, some 'Chart Fans' have expressed surprise that the 2nd 'Mamma Mia!' Soundtrack has not entered at No.1, in the UK Mid Week Chart. It is in at No.5 with 7,100 Sales.
I've Posted this, in reply to them:
The 2nd 'Mamma Mia!' Film has its UK Premiere, in London, tonight.
It will not be released nation-wide until Friday - 20th July. (Which is when it will be released in most other Countries too).
The Soundtrack is currently the 2nd biggest Album in European iTunes and the 1st biggest Album in World iTunes. This is even before the Film is released.
It has several ABBA Songs on it that will be new to a lot of people. They will want to see the Film before they buy the Soundtrack.
I was not expecting big UK Sales from it until the Film is released. Its entry at No.5 is to be expected.
Even 'The Greatest Showman' only entered at No.39. Then it jumped to No.4. it has been No.1 for 21 Weeks, since. More and more people bought it when they saw the Film.
'FERNANDO' -- Cher and Andy Garcia -- This 'Single' has just entered the UK Sales Chart at No.64, and also the UK Download Chart at No.64. It is doing nothing on Streaming, so it is not in that Top 100, and that has also stopped it entering the Main Top 100. It has no Physical release, so it is not in that Top 100 either. I'm not expecting anything from 'Mamma Mia! 2' to do much in the UK Singles Chart. Nothing did from Film 1. 'Honey Honey' - No.61. 'Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!' - No.91. ABBA managed 2 re-entries - 'Mamma Mia' - No.56 and 'Dancing Queen' No.82.
Last Week UK Chart Expert Alan Jones, ('Music Week'), predicted that the Soundtrack to 'Mamma Mia! 2' would make a 'huge' impact on this Week's UK Album Chart.
He seemed unaware that it had been released a Week before the Film, and that as it had a lot of less well known ABBA songs on it, many people would want to hear them in the Film, before buying the Soundtrack.
All of which can be seen by this Week's No.4 entry and less than 18,000 UK Sales. With the Soundtrack to Film 1 reaching over 1,530,000 UK Sales.
Here is what Alan says in his latest 'Music Week' Chart Report - for the Album Chart of W/E 26th July 2018:
"Launched ahead of the Film for which it acts as a Soundtrack, 'Mamma Mia!: Here We Go Again' nevertheless opens at No.4 (17,291 sales). The Film, which has had largely favourable reviews from critics, is once again loosely based on the lyrics of covers of ABBA songs, of which 18 are on the Soundtrack Album, which is produced by the group’s Benny Andersson and performed by Film cast members, including Cher, Meryl Streep and Julie Walters. Released 10 Years ago last week, the original 'Mamma Mia!' Soundtrack sold 35,766 copies on debut to top the Compilation Chart. Only transferred to the Artist Album Chart eight weeks ago, it reaches a new peak on that list this week, moving 17-13, with sales of 4,456 copies raising its career tally to a massive 1,531,361. The original Theatrical Cast recording of 'Mamma Mia!' – released in 1999 - has always been eligible for the Artist Album Chart, and peaked at No.12 in 2008. It jumps 177-114 this week, with 946 sales raising its career tally to 439,086. ABBA’s 'Gold: Greatest Hits' also climbs, moving 23-19 (3,310 sales), while their '18 Hits' Compilation jumps 3-1 (1,623 sales) on the Budget Album Chart". THE 'MAMMA MIA! 2 SOUNDTRACK IN THE OTHER UK CHARTS
Whilst it is in at No.4 in the Artist Chart, it is in at No.2 in the Sales Chart and also in the Physical Chart. It is in at No.3 in the Download Chart. It is only in at No.80 in the Streaming Chart - with 2 older 'Mamma Mia!' Albums entering above it. The Studio Cast Album is in at No.72 and the Soundtrack for Film 1 is in at No.74. It is in Scotland where ABBA related Albums have the most impact, this Week. The Scottish Top 100 has 'Mamma Mia! 2 in at No.3, the 1st Soundtrack is up from No.9 to No.8, 'ABBA Gold' is up from No.15 to No.13, and '18 Hits' is up from No.23 to No.17.
(Note -- The Scottish Charts are compiled by The OCC - who do all of the UK's Charts. They add the Scottish Sales Data into the Main UK Album Chart. However, only 5 Million people live in Scotland, which is why what happens in their Album Chart is dominated by the 61 Million+ people, who live in the rest of the UK - England, Wales and Northern Ireland).
onlyabba4me, your comments on Chart facts are very interesting.
I don't understand, though, why you felt it necessary to post 'spoilers' for the new film in your post of July 18th (i.e. 2 days before the cinema release date).
When fans are looking forward to seeing the film without knowing the plot / story in advance, this is very irritating. This thread is to discuss ABBA chart performance, not film content, so I don't see the relevance of your comments here, I'm afraid.