|
Post by gazman on Jul 22, 2018 14:41:57 GMT
@onlyabba4me, thank you - much appreciated. Let's talk about the charts. I see that the 'Arrival' album has started to sell quite well again in the UK, on Amazon at least, so perhaps that might chart again?
And 'More ABBA Gold' is surely bound to hit the charts again....?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2018 15:03:48 GMT
Gazman -- Yes, I've noticed that 'Arrival' and 'The Visitors' are the 2 ABBA Studio Albums with the biggest increase in Sales, due to 'Mamma Mia! 2'. They may or may not get back into the UK etc. Album Charts. ABBA Studio Albums tend to sell no-where near as well as their Compilations.
'More ABBA Gold' was a UK No.14 Hit in 1993. It was then a No.13 Hit in 1999. However, Universal did not promote it in 2008. Despite the 1st Film causing 'Gold' to return to No.1 and '18 Hits' to reach No.15. Because Universal ignored it in 2008, 'More Gold' was only a No.63 Hit that Year.
The fact that more Songs from 'More Gold' are in Film 2 may cause it to have a bigger impact this time. We will see, As usual it is 'ABBA Gold' that is selling the most, even though a lot of the Songs in Film 2 are not even on it. So it is 'ABBA Gold' that will be doing the best in every Country's Charts that it enters.
The 2014 Triple 'Gold' CD is also selling again. That one does have a lot of Songs from Film 2 on it. That Triple CD was only a No.59 UK Hit in 2014. It had 1 Week in the Top 100. By 2016, (September), it had sold just 4,200 UK copies. However, it has been quietly selling ever since - every Week. On Friday, (20th July), The British Phonographic Industry, (The B.P.I.), gave it a Silver Disk for 60,000 UK Sales. So, it has sold 55,800 copies, since September 2016, and it never re-entered the Top 100 once! It shows how Albums, (and Singles), can sell very well without re-entering the Top 100.
A few Months ago The B.P.I. gave 'The Winner Takes It All' a Silver Disk, for 200,000 UK Downloads since November 2004. This was nothing to do with its UK Sales in 1980. The 1980 Single never got a UK Gold Disk. It sold around 545,000 to 565,000 that Year, but Epic Records never asked The B.P.I. for a Gold Disk for it, (500,000), so it had no UK Sales Award at all. Which is why the Download version can have a Silver Award. Old Singles, (and Albums), can only get a Download Award if they never got an Award, when they were first released. 'Dancing Queen' has gone Silver, (over 200,000 UK Downloads, since November 2004). However, it cannot have a Silver Disk for the Downloads. This is because it got a Gold Disk, (500,000), in 1976. A Silver Single is 200,000 Sales, (400,000 for Gold), and a Silver Album is 60,000 Sales, (100,000 Gold). In ABBA's day, Gold was 500,000 for Singles and the same as now - 100,000 - for Albums - and a Silver Single had to sell 250,000.
|
|
|
Post by gary on Jul 22, 2018 22:17:42 GMT
Is this week’s UK album chart the first since 1978 to have three ABBA-related albums in the top 20?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2018 23:29:21 GMT
Gary -- Yes, 1978 was the last time that ABBA had 3 Albums of their Songs in the UK Top 20.
They managed it for 5 Weeks in a row -- W/E 25th February 1978 to W/E 25th March 1978.
This was with 'The Album', 'Greatest Hits' and 'Arrival'.
So this Week is the 1st time that 3 ABBA Song Albums have managed it since.
W/E 26th July 2018 -- 'Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again' -- No.4, 'Mamma Mia!' -- No.13, and 'ABBA Gold' -- No.19.
In 2008 the closest that the 1st Film got to causing 3 Top 20 Albums of ABBA Songs was:
W/E 27th September 2008:
No. 14 -- GOLD - GREATEST HITS -- ABBA
No. 15 -- 18 HITS -- ABBA
No. 21 -- MAMMA MIA! -- Original Stage Cast Recording
NOTE -- The 2008 Film Soundtrack was banned from the Artist Chart and it was at No.1 in the Compilation Chart, at the time.
'The Winner Takes It All' is on 3 UK Top 20 Albums this Week. It is on 'Mamma Mia!' at No.13, 'Cruising With' by Jane McDonald at No.14, and on 'ABBA Gold' at No.19.
Despite 3 Top 20 Albums - for 5 Weeks in 1978 - ABBA never managed 2 in the Top 10. Only 'The Album' was in the Top 10.
ABBA last had 2 Albums in the same UK Top 10 on W/E 21st May 1977. 'Arrival' was at No.1 and 'Greatest Hits' was at No.9.
We will see if 'Mamma Mia! 2' can get 2 Albums of ABBA Songs into the UK Top 10. We will soon find out...
|
|
|
Post by foreverfan on Jul 23, 2018 16:38:56 GMT
ABBA set to dominate UK album charts..
in in the U.K. Mid week charts..
MM2 is at number 1 MM1 is at number 5 Gold is at number 7 Gold/More Gold is at 34 Original Cast Recording is at 52.
amazing and only set to improve.....
and Fernando by Cher with very little help makes a start at 94 in the UK singles chart....
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 18:05:21 GMT
Graham -- We will see if 'Mamma Mia! 2' can be the UK's No.1 Album on Friday.
The Monday Mid Week's show that it is less than 2,000 Sales in front of the No.2 Album - 'The Greatest Showman'. That Album has already sold over a UK Million.
Also, the Mid Week Sales of 'Mamma Mia! 2' are not at all big. By just looking at them, I can already see that it has no chance to get anywhere near the UK Sales of the 1st 'Mamma Mia!' Soundtrack. I can see that after just 3 days Sales!
It should be selling far, far more, if it was going to be a truly big Album.
The 1st Soundtrack is on over 1,530,000 UK Sales.
The Film has started big - lots of cash flowing in, but I can sense that word of mouth will have it fading away pretty soon.
The 2nd Film makes too many mistakes. It kills a hugely popular character. It makes it look llke another character has a big part and it is a tiny part. It is too serious in parts. There are too many slow songs. The 'Fun' is not as great this time. All of this has upset a lot of Fans of the Stage Show and Film 1.
The editing - between the past scenes and the present scenes - is not very well done. It is just irritating a lot of those who see the Film. Too much is badly done.
That is why Film 2 will make nowhere near as much cash and why the DVD will sell a fraction of the Film 1 DVD. It is also why the Soundtrack is not selling as well as people expected. The Film has disappointed many people and they don't see any point in buying the Soundtrack.
So, there will not be a Stage Show of Film 2. Nor will there be a 'Mamma Mia! 3.
Benny and Bjorn have let Film 2 make too many silly and wrong choices...
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 14:27:35 GMT
The Sales effect from 'Mamma Mia! 2' is not going to be as big as it was for Film 1. Nor is it going to last very long. The 2nd Film is too disappointing for a lot of people. The UK's Wednesday Mid Week Album Chart -- For Sales From Friday to Tuesday
There were no Tuesday Mid Week's this Week. But, they would not have been much different to Monday and Wednesday's as regards the 'Mamma Mia!' effect.
You can see that by how similar Monday's and Wednesday's are...
No.1 -- 'Mamma Mia! Here I Go Again' -- It is now 4,400 Sales ahead of 'The Greatest Showman', which is a big improvement on Monday's Sales, where it was less than 2,000 in front. The 2nd 'Mamma Mia!' Soundtrack looks like it will be lucky to reach 500,000 UK Sales. The low 2nd Week Sales shows that the interest is just not there, this time. It was capable of being No.1 with well over 100,000 Sales, but it is not happening. The Film is too disappointing for a lot of people. Also, I think that having Songs from the 1st Soundtrack on the 2nd Soundtrack has made a lot of people see it as a rip off. The result is low Sales...
No.5 -- 'Mamma Mia!' -- The 1st Soundtrack. So it is a non-mover from Monday.
No.7 -- 'ABBA Gold' -- Another non-mover from Monday.
No.37 -- 'Mamma Mia!' (Original Stage Cast Album) -- up from No.52 on Monday.
No.40 -- 'ABBA Gold/More ABBA Gold/20 'B' Sides -- down from No.34 on Monday.
SINGLES -- 'Fernando' by Cher is said to be in the '80's', so it has climbed - a little - from No.97.
'When I Kissed The Teacher' -- (from the 2nd Film) -- looks like it could enter the Top 100 this Week. No Track from the Film is going to be any more than a tiny Hit 'Single'.
|
|
|
Post by gazman on Jul 27, 2018 18:17:08 GMT
Very good album chart placings this week - the Mamma Mia HWGA soundtrack at number 1 in the UK, the first film soundtrack at number 5, and 'ABBA Gold' at number 7, with the 'Gold 3cd package' at number 48.
And 3 songs from the soundtrack in the very bottom part of the singles chart too - at numbers 91, 92 & 98.
|
|
|
Post by foreverfan on Jul 28, 2018 5:46:29 GMT
Ok a little more detail.
Mamma Mia Here We Go Again, jumps from 4 to number 1 here in the UK, with sales of approx 35,000, which by today's standards isn't to bad, it's a different era from the original release of Mamma Mia .
Mamma Mia is at 5, quite remarkable considering it was only allowed into the main charts 8 weeks ago and is 10 years old, it sold approx 10,000
Gold climbs back into the top 10 for the first time since 2008, Again 10 years to land at number 7 with approx 7,000 sales
Gold/More Gold also enters at 48 its highest position to date with sales of approx 1,700
In the budget chart, 18 Hits remains at number 1 with sales of approx 2,000
In total with those albums alone approx 56,000 ABBA related albums sold in the U.K. last week, probablly many more when you take in all other albums and formats.
In the singles chart, which is so much harder to hit than it ever was. we have
When I kissed The Teacher at 91 , its first ever presence in a UK singles chart.
Fernando at 92,
Why Did It Have To Be Me at 98, Again its first ever presence in a U.K. Singles chart.
so Ok not huge sales here, but a presence which is good, what will happen next week, we will see , the initial fanfare is over , it's about staying power now. In the UK I-tunes chart, all singles tracks are down, and all albums apart from MM2 are also down, but it's the weekend and things could change.
|
|
|
Post by gary on Jul 28, 2018 8:44:40 GMT
That makes six Arrival songs that have made the UK charts in one form or another, I think. And two of the best songs (My Love My Life and Tiger) are among the four songs that haven’t. What an album!
|
|
|
Post by foreverfan on Aug 6, 2018 16:57:04 GMT
Just quickly in the UK midweek charts. MM2 still at number 1 MM at 8 Gold is at 9 Gold/ More is at 35. Arrival is at 82 and Voulez Vous at 99 !!!! All to change of course, but even though mid week pretty remarkable..... singles.. only 3 allowed rule.. When I Kissed The Teacher 47 Why Did It Have To me..52 Andante Andante ..59
|
|
|
Post by gary on Aug 6, 2018 19:21:35 GMT
I am sure people are buying Voulez-Vous because they loved the version of Kisses Of Fire in MM2!
|
|
|
Post by gazman on Aug 7, 2018 21:35:51 GMT
I guess it's due to 'Kisses Of Fire', 'Angeleyes' and 'I Have A Dream' all featuring.....
|
|
|
Post by abbagage on Aug 7, 2018 22:04:07 GMT
My first post! I cannot believe what a good year this is for us Abba fans. Just look at the UK charts. The MM2 soundtrack had sold just over 92,000 copies when last Friday's (3 August) UK album chart was published so it will be well over 100,000 by now. That's really not bad at all. Bear in mind that the likes of Tesco and Sainsbury's are reducing their space for physical CDs - they just don't sell the way they used to. Clearly, the MM2 soundtrack is not going to sell 1.5 million copies but it may, just may, reach 500,000. That would be a fantastic achievement since last year's third best-selling UK artist album (by Sam Smith) sold 502,000 copies.
And there's so much more to come.....
|
|
|
Post by foreverfan on Aug 10, 2018 16:50:53 GMT
I guess a little disappointment.. MM2 number 1 MM - 7 Gold -9 Gold/More - 58 No Arrival or Voulez Vous a mid week blip.. Singles When I Kissed The Teacher...46 Why Did It Have To Be Me...50 Mamma Mia... 57 3 singles in chart rule applied Andante Andante leaves the chart in Favour of Mamma Mia.(not ABBA)
|
|
|
Post by gazman on Aug 10, 2018 17:59:13 GMT
Well, those are still pretty spectacular results if you ask me! :-) 3 ABBA-related top 10 albums yet again!
|
|
|
Post by foreverfan on Aug 15, 2018 8:28:06 GMT
UK mid week's.
MM2 still at number 1, with quite a healthy lead over the rest, so should make it 4 weeks at number 1
MM is at 8
Gold is at 15
Gold/More is at 53
singles...
When I Kissed The Teacher. 41
Why Did It Have To Be Me.46
Mamma Mia.58
3 track rule applies.
as an aside , it does make you wonder in another time, i.e. 1976, the first two tracks could've been massive, if they had been released, know WDIHTBM isn't a fan favourite, I've always liked it 😀Though.
|
|
|
Post by gary on Aug 15, 2018 10:37:36 GMT
^
Must admit to getting some pleasure out of WIKTT and WDIHTBM being in the chart. It sort of confirms my opinion that Arrival is the quintessential ABBA album. It's that perfect combination of Benny and Bjorn being at their peak, and being just between the happy-go-lucky earlier albums and the more serious later albums. Every track is a gem. (Let's overlook the title of the fourth track!) Three perfect singles, plus other amazing could-have-been singles (WIKTT, MLML, Tiger). I can't understand people who think The Visitors, for example, is their best album. But each to his or her own!
|
|
|
Post by foreverfan on Aug 15, 2018 15:42:26 GMT
^^^poor Dum Dum Diddle..lol its a catchy tune, wrong title, better lyric and there you have it .. another hit...
|
|
|
Post by gary on Aug 15, 2018 17:38:06 GMT
Yes!
|
|
|
Post by abbagage on Aug 17, 2018 22:42:01 GMT
Interesting to see that When I Kissed The Teacher is now a UK Top 40 hit! Number 40 in today's chart, up from 46 last week. Why Did It Have To Be Me up to 44 (from 50) and Mamma Mia standing still at 57 (but with increased sales from last week). I wonder whether this upturn has been triggered by the whole album now being available to all Amazon Prime members? It must be a factor, I would say!
|
|
|
Post by foreverfan on Aug 19, 2018 13:28:35 GMT
Could it all be about to change? UK Charts MM2 holds at number one for the 4th week , with fairly strong sales for this day and age. 30,129 sales MM holds at number 7 with 7,312 sales Gold slips to 11 with 5,688 sales Gold/ More falls out of the official top 75 to number 76 Compared to even a few years ago, these sales are small, so in these different times it looks more and more unlikely MM2 will achieve the sales of MM. UK singles When I Kissed The Teacher climbs 6 places to break the top 40 @ 40. With 11, 372 sales Why Did It Have To Be Me climbs 6 places also from 50 to 44 its highest position so far with 10,444 sales Mamma Mia holds at 57 under the 3 track rule surprise surprise after all the hype Cher and Gimme Gimmie Gimmie fails to make even the top 100, not sure what's happened there 🤔
|
|
|
Post by foreverfan on Aug 21, 2018 7:44:44 GMT
UK mid week chart MM2 down to number 2 after 4 weeks at number one. It may change but looking unlikely as about 15,000 behind Ariana Grande and Sweetner. This may be just a blip and return again next week, it's all about staying power, and MM2 may have that over Ariana. we will see. All other albums and singles are dropping, Gold , goes up on last week's mid week's but down on official chart. More Gold makes an appearance at 74, whether it stays is another thing and Gold/ More drops out of the chart altogether. Still no Cher and GGG. 5 minute wonder ?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 10:50:26 GMT
Graham -- You are looking at the UK Charts as if they are the same as they used to be. Yes, Cher's 'Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!' is not in the Main UK Top 100 - yet. However, it is actually doing quite well in the other UK Singles Charts. It is at No.34 in both the Sales and Download Top 100's. It is as high as No.26 in the Scottish Singles Chart. It is struggling to enter the Main Top 100 for 2 reasons. The 1st is that it is not doing at all well via Streaming. 'Old' Acts tend to struggle with 'Streaming' and it prevents them doing well in the Main Top 100. The other thing holding Cher back is that there is no Physical release of her Single - so she has no Physical Sales to help her.
Regarding 'More ABBA Gold' - yes, that has gone in at No.74 in the Monday Mid Weeks. However, a lack of Streaming has been holding that back too. It has actually been a Hit for a few Weeks now, in some of the other UK Album Charts. It was at No.41 in the Physical Top 100 2 Weeks ago. It is now down to No.48. it was at No.43 in the Sales Top 100 2 Weeks ago. It is now at No.56. It was at No.79 in the Scottish Top 100 2 Weeks ago. It is now at No.67. So, its Re-Entry in the Main Album Chart Mid Weeks at No.74 is nothing really. It has been a bigger Hit than that, for a few Weeks in other UK Album Charts. It is its lack of Streaming that is preventing it doing better in the Main Top 100. (Despite ABBA being an 'Old' Act, 'ABBA Gold' is managing to get quite good Streaming, and it is at No.12 in the Streaming Top 100).
Also in the Scottish Top 100 is '18 Hits'. It is not allowed into the Main UK Album Chart, due to its current low price. But, they do let it Chart in the Scottish Top 100. It is doing very well there too. It was at No.8 last Week and now it is at No.12.
Also, the Soundtrack to the 2nd 'Mamma Mia!' Film should be selling better than it is. It is true that UK Album Sales are lower than they used to be. However, the 2nd Soundtrack is being sold on the back of the 2nd Film. The Film is not going to do as well as Film 1, but it is already the UK's 24th All Time Box Office Film, with around £54.5 Million in UK takings. The 1st Film is in 11th place, with almost £69 Million in UK takings. So, the Soundtrack from the UK's 24th All Time Film should be selling a lot better than it is. It has yet to reach 200,000 UK Sales. Yet the Soundtrack to Film 1 is in the UK Top 10 too, and that is selling well even though it already has over 1,540,000 UK Sales. It is obvious that Soundtrack 2 is under-performing. It is too simple to put it down to lower UK Album Sales.
Don't forget - 'The Greatest Showman' Soundtrack is selling far, far more and that too is in an 'Era' of low UK Album Sales. That Album has now passed 1,100,000 UK Sales. It has been in the UK Top 10 for 34 consecutive Weeks - all Top 5. Yet, the 2nd 'Mamma Mia!' Film has been a bigger success at the UK Box Office. So the 2nd 'Mamma Mia!' Film is bigger than 'The Greatest Showman', but its Soundtrack is not selling nearly as well.
So, why is the 2nd 'Mamma Mia!' Soundtrack under-performing in the UK? Firstly, I think it was a big error for Benny & Bjorn to use several Songs from Film 1 in Film 2. Then to put them on the 2nd Soundtrack too. I think that a lot of people are refusing to buy Soundtrack 2 because they feel that it is a bit of a rip off. It really should have had 18 fresh ABBA Songs on it. Secondly, we also have 'Kisses Of Fire' on it, that a of of people will think is just the terrible Male version from the Film. So, that Track becomes another reason not to buy Soundtrack 2. Too many wrong decisions were made about Soundtrack 2 and the result is that a lot of people don't want to buy it - even though the Film is a huge success...
'The Greatest Showman' Soundtrack is not as big as the 1st 'Mamma Mia!' Soundtrack, in either the UK, (1,100,000 to over 1,540,000), or Globally, (Less than 4 Million to over 7,700,000), but it is far, far bigger than the Soundtrack to 'Mamma Mia! 2'. With a Film as big as the 2nd 'MM!', the Soundtrack really should be selling far better than it is...I'm sure that Universal and Benny and Bjorn must be already wondering how the Film can be so huge, but the Soundtrack is not selling very well...
|
|
|
Post by foreverfan on Aug 21, 2018 12:38:05 GMT
^^^^^
I agree to a few of your points,
I guess the main issue I have is that these ' other ' charts may exist and various albums / singles are doing or have done better in those, it's still the fact that only the Official Singles and Albums chart count.
we may know for instance Gold has 850 top 100 weeks but only 572 weeks actually count and get in the " record facts and stats books etc " ( for those that care and interested in chart facts ) . So it seems that all the facts aren't reality or dont count, even many chart fans don't look any further than the official top 75. ( which for years now I can't understand why not a top 100 ? ).
Reality dictates that MM2 isn't as successful, for whatever reason and I agree that there are to many of the same tracks albeit slightly different versions on the album and may sell less because of it. ( I do see why in the film for marketing reasons, but don't really need to be on the album ) . Kisses of fire , and why was it allowed ? Is virtually destroyed, even on the album, I wonder how many skip that first 30 odd seconds without hearing the full song, sacrilegious. The album may have longevity and may surprise us, The summer still carries on, the film is doing well, to the surprise of many, the DVD release is to come, which will boost sales, so it may get closer to the million than we think.
As with everything time will tell, who thought in 1992 that Gold would still be in the top 20 in 2018.
I guess we can make a chart out of any statistic, but for the time being here in the UK alas only the Top 75 really counts.
|
|
|
Post by gary on Aug 21, 2018 12:59:56 GMT
It seems to me that we can be reasonably certain that Mamma Mia Here We Go Again (both the film and the soundtrack) will not be as successful as Mamma Mia. That said, there is no doubt that MMHWGA is very successful, and that all fears of it being a Grease 2 have proved unfounded. It wouldn’t surprise me if a MM3 happens some time in the future.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 16:12:53 GMT
Gary -- A lot of people think in 'patterns'. I recall that a lot of ABBA Fans were totally against a 'Mamma Mia! 2', when it was being suggested in 2008 and 2009. In their minds the 'pattern' was that 'Grease' had been huge in 1978, but 'Grease 2' had been a total flop in 1982, so this meant 2 things. The 1st was that 'Sequels' to Musicals cannot be a success. The 2nd was that this meant that a 'Mamma Mia! 2' had no chance to be a success. Those ABBA Fans did not want a 'Mamma Mia! 2' under any circumstances.
At the time, (2008/2009), there were ABBA Fans - like me - who said that just because 'Grease 2' flopped did not mean that a 'Mamma Mia! 2' would do so. That the Songs in 'Grease 2' were not Hits at all, but a 'Mamma Mia! 2' would have a huge asset - more ABBA Songs, which had been Hit Singles, or on Million Selling Albums.
Sure enough, in just 5 Weeks 'Mamma Mia! 2' is the UK's 24th All Time Film, with £54.5 Million in takings, and it can climb higher, as it is still in Cinemas. So much for the 'pattern' people, who said it would flop - because 'Grease 2' flopped in 1982.
At the moment, there is no sign that 'Mamma Mia! 2' will be made into a Stage Musical, but I've read that that question has been put to Benny and Bjorn, etc. If it is put on Stage, they really should sort out 'Kisses Of Fire'.
Regarding the UK Charts. In the past the Singles and Albums Charts were based purely on Sales, so strictly speaking it is the Weekly Sales Top 100's that show the Charts as they once were. In those Charts 'More ABBA Gold' has been a Hit for several Weeks. However, it does not count, as it has done next to nothing via Streaming and that is why it struggles in the Main Top 100. The same with 'Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!' by Cher.
My worry is that ABBA's 2, (or 3), New Singles will reach No.1 in the UK, (and other Countries), Sales Charts, but they will struggle in the Main Singles Charts, due to a lack of Streaming. For, unless ABBA do well in the Main Charts, their No.1's in the Sales Charts will not count. They will be ignored and ABBA will look like there was a huge fuss over their New Singles, only for them to flop where it counted - in the Main Top 100. After all the hype, that really would be a huge embarassment for ABBA.
Although the UK's Charts are Top 100's, only the Top 75 is used by 'Music Week', which is the UK Music Industry Trade Magazine. It has been a tradition that UK Chart Books use 'Music Week' for their Chart Data and Facts and Feats - which is why the Top 100 is not used for UK Chart Books.
Anyhow, The Internet has so many Chart Sites that UK Chart Books are no longer compiled, as fewer people bought them once they could get the Data for free 'On-Line'. So, the days of UK Chart Books are over. It is just as well, as 'Modern' Acts can stay in the Singles Chart for far, far longer these days. Downloads are 24/7, 365 Days a Year, so Hits no longer fall out of the Charts, after a few Months. In ABBA's time, a Single had a limited Chart Life, as once the Record Company stopped supplying a Hit to the Shops, it fell off the Chart. That no longer happens. On top of that, Streaming also keeps a Single in the Chart for endless Months. Ed Sheeran has spent far, far longer in the UK Top 75 than ABBA, and he's only been having Hits since 2011. So has Rihanna, and her Hits only started in 2007. One Direction only had 5 UK No.1 Singles, but they have outsold ABBA in UK Singles. One Direction are on around 12.2 Million, to around 11.5 Million for ABBA. One Direction only began to have UK Hits in September 2011, and they split up in 2015, but they have sold more UK Singles than ABBA have managed from 1974 to 2018 - 44 Years. This is due to Downloads and Streaming allowing Modern Big Acts to keep selling Singles forever.
If UK Chart Books were still compiled, you would see Modern Acts over-taking the 'Old' Acts - rapidly - in the Facts and Feats Section. (ABBA have now been over-taken by so many Modern Acts, in the Weeks In The UK Top 75 Singles Chart, that their 260 Top 75 Weeks may no longer be enough to see them in the Top 100 All Time Acts. They were down to about 88th place, when I last checked, about 3 Years ago.).
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 16:59:42 GMT
It seems to me that we can be reasonably certain that Mamma Mia Here We Go Again (both the film and the soundtrack) will not be as successful as Mamma Mia. That said, there is no doubt that MMHWGA is very successful, and that all fears of it being a Grease 2 have proved unfounded. It wouldn’t surprise me if a MM3 happens some time in the future. Regarding another Mamma Mia film, in a Swedish interview Benny and Björn are asked about this. Benny: I don't think so. There are no songs left now. Interviewer: You can write new ones? Benny: Yes, we can but then it will not be a third film, it will be a new film. But that's nothing we are working on now. We have other things to do. Björn: It would be interesting to see what could be scraped together to make a third, that also fits together. Benny: That's impossible! Björn: It's impossible. I promise, it's impossible!
|
|
|
Post by foreverfan on Aug 29, 2018 8:28:14 GMT
UK mid week Charts
MM2 is back at number 1 The rest are holding there own, not much movement.
The singles are down, and Mamma Mia is now out of the top 75.
Still no Cher for either GGG or S.O.S
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 13:07:52 GMT
I very much doubt if 'Mamma Mia! 3' will ever appear. Benny and Bjorn think that an awful lot of ABBA Songs are not good enough to be in the Films. The truth is that the Films are not good enough for any ABBA Songs! There are loads of great ABBA Songs left, and they would work even more in big, spectacular 'Set Pieces', in Film 3. Unfortunately, Benny and Bjorn don't have much imagination or vision, these days and they think that there is nothing left for Film 3. Just as in 2008 they said that there was nothing left for a Film 2 - so there would never be a 2nd Film.
Soon, there will be both 'Mamma Mia!''s in the UK's All Time Top 20 Films. The 1st at 11 and the 2nd in about 17th place. Not bad, when a lot of ABBA Fans said Film 2 must never be made, as it would flop, 'Just like 'Grease 2'.
We will see if the Queen Film, 'Bohemian Rhapsody' sees Queen taking over the World's Album Charts in the next few Months. If it is huge, then attention will fall away from ABBA, and it will start to get very quiet again. Unless the 2 Hour Global TV Special can boost ABBA again, in December. Assuming that it goes ahead. At present I'm not even sure if the ABBAtars Tour will happen. Or even if the 2, (or 3), New Songs will ever be released. I just have a weird feeling that something is not going to work out. I had a Dream about it all recently. In it ABBA announced that, 'Due to a change of mind', the New Singles were never going to be released. It was so upsetting, for a great many Fans, that they lost all interest in ABBA. However, it was just a Dream - a Nightmare, more like. It does not mean that it is true...
|
|