Would be great if you can clarify/ post links to where these sources and interviews are coming from. The only article I've seen is Julie Walters talking about I've Been Waiting For You. It looks like the soundtrack will have 18 songs on it so assuming they include Mamma Mia and Dancing Queen again, the growing list of new songs cannot be 100% accurate.
Matt - We will soon find out how many ABBA Songs are in the Film. Also, how many of those that make the Film are on the Soundtrack. As with the Soundtrack to the 1st 'Mamma Mia!' Film, at least 3 of the Songs will not also be on the Soundtrack. (The 1st Film had 'Chiquitita' in it, as well as 'Waterloo' and 'I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do', but none of those 3 Songs were on the Soundtrack. Then we had 'The Name Of The Game', which was cut from Film 1, but they did include it on the Soundtrack CD. As with Film 1, the Songs on Film 2, will also not be identical to the Soundtrack).
So far, 23 ABBA Songs have been mentioned, (as being in the Film), by named sources. These are Cast & Musicians, who have mentioned ABBA Songs in interviews. 'Happy Hawaii' and 'Why Did It Have To Be Me?' are counted as 2 Songs, but they will likely only be 2 halves of 1 Song. They are being sung as a Medley.
Three Songs have now been mentioned with no sources given. We are just told that 'Cast or Crew' have mentioned that they are in the Film. They are: 'The Way Old Friends Do', 'Gonna Sing You My Love Song' and 'My Love, My Life'. So, it is not certain that those 3 Songs are really in the Film.
LINK: - To Where The 'Mamma Mia! 2' Songs Are Listed:
bit.ly/2Ibwd6l The 1st Film had 24 ABBA Songs in it. Of which 21 were different Songs. 18 Songs were on the Soundtrack. So the 2nd Film could have 24 or 25 ABBA Songs in it, with 21 or 22 that are not the same & 18 of those on the Soundtrack. So far, there is nothing in the List of proposed Songs, that cannot possibly be true.
The 'Mamma Mia! 2' Site, (Wikipedia), has Listed 25 ABBA Songs - 26 if you count 'Happy Hawaii'/ 'Why Did It Have To Be Me?' as 2 Songs.
He or she includes 3 Songs, with no source, (as to who told him), so I have written to he or she about that, in the Talk part of the Site.
Here is what I've said:
"Please give the source when you add 'New' ABBA Songs to the 'Mamma Mia! 2' List. You have added 3 'New' Songs to the List of Songs that have been 'mentioned by Cast and Crew' - but you have not said which Cast & Crew are supposed to have mentioned them. The 3 Songs are: 'The Way Old Friends Do', 'Gonna Sing You My Love Song' and 'My Love, My Life'. After all, we don't want the List of ABBA Songs, in the Film, to end up so long, that a lot of them are clearly 'made up' by certain ABBA Fans. Meaning that those Songs will not be in the Film at all".
So is it looking that we won't be getting any new Album to accompany the Soundtrack, and Universal are going to rely on Gold and said Soundtrack!!! Personally I won't be getting the soundtrack, hate cover versions, but would buy new album, even though I may have every track 20 times over...
If so that is very poor management.......
or are they hanging on until Christmas and the new singles, but that seems pointless....
what are they they playing at, or will there be a nice surprise come July..
Graham -- Yes, it looks like Universal will just be relying on 'ABBA Gold', & 'More ABBA Gold' to be given a 'boost' due to 'Mamma Mia! 2' in July, August, September etc.
Perhaps '18 Hits' will also get a 'boost' from the Film. It got a big 'boost' via the 2008 Film. It rose to No.15 in the UK Album Chart. Until the 2008 Film gave it a big 'push' it had only been a small UK Hit - No.72 in 2006, and No.46 in 2007. The 2008 Film not only got it to No.15, but it spent 20 Weeks on the 2008 Chart.
However, there will not be a 'New' Compilation, to reflect the 'New' ABBA Songs in 'Mamma Mia! 2'. So, there will be no ABBA Compilation that contains 'Kisses Of Fire', 'As Good As New', 'If It Wasn't For The Nights', 'I've Been Waiting For You', & 'Like An Angel Passing Through My Room', etc.
But, I'm sure that Universal will release a 'New' ABBA Compilation, at some stage in 2019. Otherwise, they will have 2 New Hit Singles by ABBA - their 1st New Songs in 37 Years, and neither will have an ABBA Album to call 'Home'. A Portuguese 'Chart Expert' calls Singles without an Album, 'Orphans'. I'm quite sure that neither ABBA nor Universal will want 'I Still Have Faith In You' and 'Don't Shut Me Down' to be 'Orphans'. (I'm certain that both Singles will be Hits, but, it is how big - or small - they are that is no longer certain. Streaming has really taken over the UK etc. Singles Charts and it is very hard indeed for 'Old' Acts to even reach the Top 10 now, let alone No.1. This is why Madonna, Kylie Minogue & Take That can no longer reach the UK Top 10 with Singles. We have to see if even the enormity of 2 New ABBA Singles is not enough to get ABBA into the Top 10...).
There is sure to be an ABBA Album that they are put on. Be it a Compilation or - ABBA deciding that they enjoyed doing the 2 Songs so much, that they may as well do 8 more & give 'The Fans' a New Studio Album. It is no longer impossible. I believe that ABBA feel a fresh energy, & that it is not unthinkable that we - finally - get the follow-up to 'The Visitors'. We must be patient & see what happens. A New ABBA Album would have no trouble in reaching No.1 - in many Countries, including the UK. 'Old' Acts can still have No.1 Albums.
Hopefully ABBA will keep the recording a secret and only reveal that it has been made, after it is finished. What a big surprise that would be!
I think that the UK Charts Company will allow the Soundtrack for 'Mamma Mia! 2' into the Main, (Artist), UK Album Chart. The Soundtrack to the 1st Film was banned from the Main Chart & only allowed into the Compilations Chart & the Soundtrack Chart.
The OCC would have a hard job to explain it, if they banned Soundtrack 2 from the Main Chart. This is because they've allowed 'The Greatest Showman' Soundtrack into the Main Chart for the past 20 Weeks. Of which 19 Weeks have been in the Top 10 - all inside the Top 5. It has been No.1 for 15 Weeks - so far - this Year. It will be No.2 in the Chart on Friday, & its Total UK Sales will be about 722,000.
The 1st 'Mamma Mia!' Soundtrack has sold over 1,500,000 in the UK. It has also over 7,700,000 Globally. Which is more than 'The Album' and 'Voulez-Vous', but not as big as 'Arrival', (10,800,000), nor as big as 'Super Trouper', (8,200,000). ('The Album' sold about 7,200,000 and 'Voulez-Vous' sold about 7,000,000).
The 2nd Soundtrack is obviously going to be a big seller, with several Weeks at No.1. Some ABBA Fans are expecting 'ABBA Gold' to go to No.1, (UK), again. It can't. Since it was No.1 in 2008, it has sold so many copies, that there are not enough possible Sales, for it to go to No.1 again. It may well reach the UK Top 10 again. Maybe even the Top 5, but it won't get to No.1. This time the Film Soundtrack will be No.1. As it would have been in 2008, had it not been banned from the Chart. Had it been allowed into the Main Chart in 2008, it would have stopped 'ABBA Gold' from going back to No.1. The ABBA Album would have been No.2, for about 5 Weeks. Rather than a 2 Week No.1...
Ok, let's be optimistic .. and that the soundtrack is allowed in the top 75 UK album charts, and its massive( of course) like The Greatest Showman...
A question... can any of the tracks on the Soundtrack chart ? I assume yes, I take in point of When I Kissed The Teacher, already a great little video, and surprisingly well sung, even the Celia Emrie bit is ok... but is it classed as various artists ? and not allowed for instance, and off the back of the Soundtrack could any Official ABBA tracks chart, even like last time low end?
Graham - Any Tracks off the 'Mamma Mia! 2' Soundtrack would be able to enter the UK Top 100. There are no 'Rules' against that. (The only 'Rule' is that no Artist can have more than 3 Songs in the Top 75//Top 100, at the same time. They made that Rule because Ed Sheeran had 16 Songs in the Top 20, in early 2017!).
'The Greatest Showman' currently has 3 'Singles' in the UK Top 75. The biggest is 'This Is Me', which was a No.3 Hit. The other 2 reached No.22 & No.24, respectively.
ABBA may or may not reach the 'Singles' Chart Top 75, or Top 100, due to 'Mamma Mia! 2'. In 2008 'Mamma Mia' re-entered the Top 100 and it did this - 86,57,56,71,68,68,83. 'Dancing Queen' also re-entered the Top 100, & did this - 90,82,95,90,96.
The 2 ABBA re-entries were on W/E 19th July 2008.
Alan Jones, ('Music Week' Chart Expert), is an ABBA Fan. He comments on the UK Charts, each Week.
The 'Mamma Mia!' (One) Soundtrack would have entered the Artist, (Main), Album Chart at No.2, had it not been banned from it. The Coldplay Album - 'Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends' - would have remained at No.1 - 40,111 Sales, to 'Mamma Mia!'s 35,766.
Here is what Alan reported in his UK 'Chart Commentary', for the W/E 19th July 2008:
"With Mamma Mia! enjoying a big week in cinemas, sales of all ABBA-related music increased considerably last week, with the group placing 11 albums in the week’s 1,000 best-sellers, while download sales secured Top 1,000 singles chart placings for 22 of their recordings. Those making the most impression being: Mamma Mia (number 86, 1,456 sales), Dancing Queen (number 90, 1,439 sales), The Winner Takes It All All (number 132, 937 sales), Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (number 174, 797 sales), and Take A Chance On Me (number 321, 520 sales).
86)... ABBA -- Mamma Mia -- 1,456 90)... ABBA -- Dancing Queen -- 1,439 132)... ABBA -- The Winner Takes It All -- 937 174)... ABBA -- Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! -- 797 321)... ABBA -- Take A Chance On Me -- 520 =======================================
With the Mamma Mia! musical now attracting big audiences to UK cinemas, the Soundtrack Album – featuring contributions from the likes of Meryl Streep and Pierce Brosnan – debuts at number one on the Compilation Chart, after attracting 35,766 sales.
Meanwhile, the London Original Cast Recording, dating back to 1999, vaults 66-35 on the Artist Album Chart (4,631 sales), while all of ABBA’s back catalogue enjoys increased sales. Gold: Greatest Hits explodes 43-12 (10,156 sales) to achieve its highest chart placing since 2004, while 2005’s 18 Hits compilation – number 46 in 2007 – re-enters the chart at number 54 (3,558 sales).
NOTE -- ABBA will not be able to have so many Re-Entries, this time. For the simple reason that The Official UK Charts Company - The OCC - has stopped doing a Top 1000! (Well, their Computers will still compile a Top 1000, but the Top 100, is the only part of it, that The OCC will release to the Public & Media etc). Because the UK 'Singles' Chart is now only a Top 100, ABBA cannot possibly get the same impact from 'Mamma Mia! 2', that they had from the 1st Film, in 2008...
Someone has pointed out that the House Boat in the 'When I Kissed The Teacher' Video, (from 'Mamma Mia! 2'), is called 'Chiquitita'. (The 3 Girls use the House Boat as a Stage, near the end of the 'When I Kissed The Teacher' Clip).
I wonder if Benny & Bjorn have put other ABBA Song Titles into the Film, to see if Fans can spot them?
They could be in the names of Streets & Roads, Titles of Books, Headlines in Newspapers, etc.
Mamma Mia here we go again. Remember Waterloo was only an instrumental in the Mamma Mia the movie just sang in the end credits .What would like to know which songs in instrumental will we get this time
Universal really must show the 'Mamma Mia! 2' Tracks now. On the Soundtrack. They have revealed Tracks 1, ('When I Kissed The Teacher'), and 4, ('Waterloo'), leaving the other 16 Tracks blank. It is silly. Most people will not pre-order it if they only know 2 Tracks on it. This is why it is not doing well on either the UK or USA Amazon - and other Countries Amazon's too. Universal are not being very sensible in their Marketing...
WATERLOO 'MAMMA MIA! 2' CLIP
Below is a less than 1 minute clip of 'Waterloo' from 'Mamma Mia! 2'. It is sung by Lily James, (who can sing), & Hugh Skinner, (who can't sing). The Clip is from Italy, as Universal seem to be 'pulling' the Clip as soon as it is added to YouTube - even though they released 'Waterloo' as a 'Single' a few days ago.
As you can see, 'Waterloo' is sung in a Napoleon Themed Restaurant, with the Waiters & Customers joining in...
Not as good as When I Kissed The Teacher, which is excellent, but then it's only a clip and not in full context, also as you say, it's " to familiar", that said, I'm sure it will fit...
Notice, that the Stage show is now being shown on UK adverts as it moves around the country, increasing the hype.
As for the Soundtrack, well good and bad , highly probable that MM2 will be allowed in the main chart, however MM1 chart achievements will be lost to the back pages of chart history, as even today apart from the singles and album charts in the UK, all the other charts seem to be of less value. In reality it's 500 plus weeks won't count for nothing on the main chart and it will for example be recorded in the main chart as a number 59 hit for two weeks or something equally bad.
So it could be the year of the soundtrack in the U.K., with Showman still heading the charts, currently 17 weeks at number 1, can MM2 do as well?
1)... Yes, on Friday The Official UK Charts Company, (The OCC), will allow the 1st 'Mamma Mia!' Soundtrack into the UK Artist, (Main), Top 100 Album Chart. They banned it, from that Chart, 517 Weeks ago - 3 Weeks off 10 Years.
2)... It will be called its 1st Week in the UK Album Chart - the previous 517 weeks will be forgotten, as they were in the UK Soundtrack Album Chart. It spent over 30 Weeks at No.1 in the Soundtrack Chart. It has sold over 1,500,000 UK copies - so far. (5 x Platinum).
3)... The Soundtrack to Film 1, will very likely spend a long time in the UK Top 100. It tends to sell very well in the Weekly Soundtrack Chart. Its current Week in that Chart, is its 517th & it fell from No.17 to No.19. It will be much lower than that in the Main Top 100, as the Soundtrack Chart tends to - mostly - have lower Sales. So, it will get its 518th Soundtrack Chart Week on Friday - but only its 1st Week in the Artist, (Main), Album Chart...
4)... The OCC allowed 'The Greatest Showman' into the Main Chart - calling it a 'Motion Picture Cast Recording'. That will get its 18th No.1 Week on Friday - the most by a Soundtrack since 'Saturday Night Fever' in 1978, which also spent 18 Weeks at No.1.
5)... The OCC are no longer calling the 1st 'Mamma Mia!' Album a 'Soundtrack'. They now call it a Motion Picture Cast Recording - the same as 'The Greatest Showman'.
6)... We will see if the 2nd 'Mamma Mia!' Soundtrack - Motion Picture Cast Recording - can spend a long time at No.1 in the UK Artist Album Chart. I've already done calculations for 'The Greatest Showman', for all of its Weeks at No.1. It is not selling as well - or as fast - as the 1st 'Mamma Mia!' Soundtrack. So, the 2nd Film's Soundtrack may well outsell 'The Greatest Showman' too... Despite 17 Weeks at No.1 - so far - 'The Greatest Showman' has yet to reach 850,000 UK Sales. The 1st 'Mamma Mia!' Soundtrack reached a UK Million far faster...
After 517 Weeks, when The OCC banned it from the UK Artist, (Main), Album Chart, the Soundtrack to the 1st 'Mamma Mia!' Film has been allowed in that Chart - after nearly 10 Years of being refused entry.
it enters at No.86 this Week - W/E 14th June 2018. (It is counted as its 1st Chart Week. Its previous 517 Weeks in the Soundtrack Chart don't count). It is up from No.19 to No.4, in that Chart, this Week - its 518th Chart Week...
Until now it has only been allowed into the Compilation Chart, (No.1 for 11 Weeks), and the Soundtrack Chart, (No.1 for over 30 Weeks).
Its UK Sales are over 1,500,000 - 5 x Platinum.
The OCC are no longer calling it a Soundtrack. It is now a 'Motion Picture Cast Album' - the same as 'The Greatest Showman'. The OCC could hardly ban the 'Mamma Mia! 2' Soundtrack, when they have let 'The Greatest Showman' spend most of 2018 in the Top 5 - with 18 Weeks at No.1.
This is The OCC's way of saying that the Soundtrack to 'Mamma Mia! 2' will not be banned from the UK Artist, (Main), Album Chart. It will be allowed into the Chart from Week 1. Which means a Top 5 New Entry, of course...
it looks like the Soundtracks to both 'Mamma Mia!' Films will be in the UK Artist, (Main), Album Chart, at the same time.
Despite the, (often), terrible singing, the 1st 'Mamma Mia!' Film became the No.1 Box Office Film of 'All Time', in the UK.
It is now down to 10th place.
13,336,000 people went to see 'Mamma Mia! 1', in the UK alone. Of course, many of those people will have gone to see it more than once, but it still sold 13,336,000 UK Tickets.
From estimates, that I've seen, 'Experts' are predicting that Film 2 will take just over 500 Million Dollars Worldwide - around 100 Million Dollars less than Film 1 took. We will see. Even with a 500 Million Dollar Box Office, it would still be a huge success.
The terrible singing in Film 2 should not affect its success. After all, the 1st Film was huge, despite the lack of singers in it...
A lot of so called 'Journalists' have been commenting on the forthcoming 'Mamma Mia! 2' Film, or on ABBA recording two New Songs.
Some of their comments are so stupid, that one can only regard the 'Journalists' as complete imbeciles!
There was the Female 'Journalist', who - a few Months ago - said that: 'It is obvious that the ABBA songs in the 2nd Film are going to be exactly the same ones that were in the 1st Film'.
She based her view on the fact that only 'Mamma Mia', 'I Have A Dream', 'Waterloo' and 'Dancing Queen' were in the 1st Trailers for Film 2.
However, she is not the most idiotic 'Journalist' to make comments on these matters.
1)... We have Gabriella Geisinger, who has done a 'Mammia Mia! 2' Article in today's 'Daily Express'.
She has stated that the 2nd Film only has three ABBA Songs in it! So, according to her, even 'Mamma Mia' is not in Film 2 - even though it is named after that ABBA Song!
Here is what she says:
"The movie will be written and directed by Ol Parker and will feature three ABBA songs. The songs are: "When I Kissed the Teacher," "I Wonder (Departure)," and "Angel Eyes."
2)... Then we have Brett Ellis of the 'Watford Observer'. He has done an Article saying that ABBA's 'Come Back' will be a terrible mistake. A disaster.
He insults Frida, while he is at it:
"Knowing me, knowing you….Aha! Benny, Bjorn, Agnetha and the other one, whose name no one remembers, are back!"
3)... Linda Lowen of the Central New York Entertainment, has Reviewed 'Mamma Mia!' after seeing it at the Merry-Go-Round Playhouse in New York.
She gives it a good Review, then spoils it all by mentioning the forthcoming 2nd Film and how all ABBA Songs sound the same. Which is what I've heard many people say over the Years, including my Father - and it is a sign of ignorance.
Here is how Linda ends her Review:
"If you love ABBA then go buy your tickets now -- "Mamma Mia!" is the Energizer Bunny of jukebox musicals, and this FLMTF production is entertaining, lively, and fun. If the price is a bit steep or it sells out, then hold out for the film sequel this summer -- many of the same songs will be included again. And honestly, if you've heard one ABBA tune, you've heard 'em all".
Graham - The Film has its World Premiere, in London, on Monday 16th July. It then gets released in the UK & in most Countries on Friday July 20th. Other Countries get it on Friday 27th July and even later.
The Soundtrack Album - Motion Picture Cast Album - is released on Friday 13th July, which is 4 Weeks away. Yet - still - there has been no proper Track List, given to the UK Amazon, USA Amazon, or HMV etc.
All we are told is that Track 1 is 'When I Kissed The Teacher' and Track 4 is 'Waterloo'. So that's 1 'New' Song and one that was in the 1st Film. It is hardly exciting, for those who may or may not decide to buy the Soundtrack Album.
It is as if Universal are too nervous to reveal all of the ABBA Songs in Film 2.
It is silly, as we have to find out which Songs are in it, at some stage - soon.
The UK Amazon are selling the Soundtrack on 2 different pages, at greatly varied prices. Even though it is the same 1 CD Soundtrack on both pages. On one page they want £10.99 for it and on another page they want £16.68 for it! As a result, people don't know which one to buy. They aren't sure if the £16.68 version is a 'Deluxe' version, with more Songs on it. It is a mess really...
They are taking far too long to give the Media the Track List to the Soundtrack. Their Marketing is too slow.
Then again 'Now That's What I Call Music 100' is released in the UK on Friday 20th July. It is regarded as a 'Big Event' by the UK Media, but the Track List for that is also yet to be revealed. Even though it is their 100th Album, since they began, in November 1983. The 'Now' people also move very slowly, in these matters...
Some 'Mamma Mia! 2' Cast Members have now said that 'My Love, My Life' is in the 2nd Film.
I regard that 'Arrival' Song as a sort of 'Twin', to the equally beautiful Song, from the 'ABBA' Album, 'I've Been Waiting For You'.
What an interesting statement, Colin. I was familiar with the Arrival album long before I ever heard any of the three previous albums, and ever since I first heard I've Been Waiting For You, something about it has reminded me of My Love, My Life.