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Post by foreverfan on Dec 3, 2018 8:02:03 GMT
^^^^ not that I'm complaining, but as Colin said something appears to be strange, MM2 has been out a couple of weeks now, but for some reason it's a " new " entry now after being number 2 dropping to 7 .. what's happening.
What is the real difference between the video chart and the DVD chart !!! It's seems these days it's a chart for a charts, to many of them, as old as I may be bring back just the one over all charts , one singles one albums, as in the singles only one is relevant anyhow..
All UK of course....
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Post by foreverfan on Dec 2, 2018 21:00:42 GMT
^^^^Im glad it wasn't just me who thought something was strange... i see it's already showing on Sky, has that something to possibly do with it ?
But something isn't right....
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Post by foreverfan on Nov 28, 2018 18:24:29 GMT
A word of caution..
Take That a huge ' old ' boy band in the UK, 12 number singles 7 number one albums, have a greatest hits album, Odyssey, released this week and is currently out selling the other top 5 albums combined sales. Nearly sold 100.000 already.
That all said, they have failed to have a new release hit the singles charts, from this album,( I think 2 or 3 new tracks ) their last hit was only number 13 and stayed in the charts for a miserable 3 weeks, officially only 1 week in the top 75. .. their last top 10 was 2014.
it all goes to show ABBA have a huge mountain to climb to get into the UK singles top 10 let alone number 1, with the new releases.. Make a new Album , forget the singles and it will be massive..
Hope I'm wrong of course, but not looking to great , if a relatively new group cant do it and they have a huge following...
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Post by foreverfan on Nov 19, 2018 12:00:17 GMT
Apparently it's going to happen this weekend 24th November.... oh dear... Dont think , well I know, won't be watching , totally embarrassing....
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Post by foreverfan on Nov 18, 2018 18:04:48 GMT
It was always a bit of a mystery why they never got close to a Christmas themed track let alone single, it's not even mentioned in a lyric...strange coming from a European country with quite a strong Christmas ethic, it would probably be a question I'd ask if I could've, ..
Still it's not out of the realms of possibilities with the potential of what's going on....
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Post by foreverfan on Nov 18, 2018 13:10:22 GMT
I'm hoping that they have got to a stage in life where they don't care anymore Because being on this show these days will be for want of a word.. terrible , and the tracks used to sing will be cringeworthy, many will say MM2 was bad enough , but we haven't heard anything yet... The last time I can remember any ABBA influence on this show was years ago, 2006, when Leona Lewis sang Chiquitita In the heats Which obversely wasn't to bad... But oh dear....
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Post by foreverfan on Nov 15, 2018 16:21:38 GMT
I know we stray from original thread, but like I've said before I feel any conversation no matter which way it goes is good, so therefore.....
I tend to agree with the full Orchestra theme, my only reservation is that it would be another "Gold' in another form, " we " all know there's loads of great other tracks to be heard, but alas we are becoming a smaller minority as years go by, and the general public only " knows" those dreaded 20 odd tracks... so it would be unlikely to happen, ( love to be proved wrong) .
Im personally going through a phase of the " more " obscure tracks... for instance The Piper, great little track , even a little Christmassy dare I say . Soldiers, Hole In Your Soul.......
EP, was said really tongue in cheek , but if the warnings are there that the singles could flop, I'd hate to see then make number 37 for 1 week then diasappear... so much better on a new album and be huge. Than flop into obscurity..
Mods... why not set up a general discussion room, where anything goes... just a thought...
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Post by foreverfan on Nov 15, 2018 13:32:36 GMT
Another collectors item.emmmm I guess the first batch will be the most sort after.. wonder how much they will be.....
It's a shame and probably impossible now for it to have not been a hit in the UK, it could've ended up a perennial favourite...... Liked mentioned a million times with the removal of 1989, it would have been timeless...
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Post by foreverfan on Nov 9, 2018 14:20:07 GMT
Probably very true^^^^ in a way I'd rather they didn't release the singles as they have the potential to be flops no matter how good they may be, it's all a little disturbing for chart watchers like myself to see big established acts no longer have hits..
Im beginning to think, that they would be better released on a album, at least it would be a hit ...
anyone know the minimum length of an album is allowed and is there a limit to number of tracks...
bring back EPs those that can remember..lol
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Post by foreverfan on Nov 8, 2018 14:11:13 GMT
Although old news now...
Story Of A Heart, failed to chart in the UK charts, by either Benny or Steps...
Its does make me think is the new ABBA single going to be in the same style, the title suggests that it could be..emmm!
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Post by foreverfan on Nov 4, 2018 18:07:56 GMT
Surely the release of MM2 on DVD will have a "boost" on both Mamma Mia films and Gold, alas agree nothing else, except the remote possibility of More Gold....
The interest will possibly go on until Christmas early January then everything will fade away until the New Singles whenever that will happen, whatever happens then will dictate a few more chart entries, rises, but if that's it.. I feel by the middle of 2019 ABBA will have almost disappeared from the charts, until that is MM2 gets to TV, small boost again... then nothing ....
All of that will depend if we get the album we are all hoping for....
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Post by foreverfan on Nov 2, 2018 16:34:25 GMT
Interesting ^^^ However I think that Fernando would have been the " novelty" hit that would've got into the chart, before DQ.. Although we are probably bias.... the hits would've happened anyhow... because...... they were good....
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Post by foreverfan on Nov 1, 2018 17:10:30 GMT
I know it's going off topic ... but hey.. keeps the thread going.... a bit longer.....
There have been loads of One hit wonders in the UK, getting to number one and then nothing at all, ever/so far..
We have The Archie's with Sugar Sugar in the late 1969, number one for a huge 8 weeks, 6 months on the chart, then obscurity, nothing.... perhaps being one of the most famous one hit wonders....
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Post by foreverfan on Nov 1, 2018 13:17:26 GMT
Regarding So Long, a flop yes, mega flop emmmmm , I read recently it made number 91, so it registered in the top 100, alas only a top 50 was published at the time...
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 31, 2018 18:35:51 GMT
Not sure where it all started, perhaps it has to do with the top selling Albums, but the friendly rivalry between Queen and ABBA is interesting , though musically miles apart...
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 25, 2018 16:25:54 GMT
Also if we consider that TACOM was the end of the "Golden Period" here in the UK , was the gap between it leaving the charts on 8th April and SNC entering the charts on 16th September far to long? 5 months... did the buying public move onto the likes of Blondie, Boney M etc...ending that period of dominance, or just poor choices... ABBA did seem to have long gaps between singles with 1976 and 79 being exceptions... But with all that said, every artist has its day whether it's short or long , one single or many, had ABBA just started to run its course by 1980......
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 25, 2018 7:12:57 GMT
^^^^Its a good perspective, I guess we the ABBA fans tend to look back with as they say with rose coloured spectacles ( better than it really was ) , and of course all of this is in hind sight and personal views.
The discussion will of course carry on, and very few if any will know the truth of how singles were chosen, but as above not to far from the truth, but that's not to say that some of those choices were wrong or mis guided. It's easy these days to say that should've been released , but they were different times, usually no more than 2 or 3 tracks at most were singles, until Voulez Vous came along, which was unusual, to be followed by Super Trouper arguably a better album , back down to 2 singles and the odd territory getting LAYLOM.
Back to DYMK , it was a huge risk at the time when we consider the other available tracks to choose from, one has to question why / who made that decision ( from a personal point of view I quite like it ) . In chart place terms a relative flop, if you can call a top 5 single a flop, here in the UK, but sold over 250, 000 copies compared to today.. massive... like I've said before different times.
I enjoy these "ifs buts and maybes " topics, they generate discussion , are fun and interesting to hear others ideas...
In retrospect during those years from 75 to ? You pick, ABBA could've released anything from the Album of the time and it would've been a hit, even The Visitors missed out why no 3rd single to try and amend HOH.. down to choices again and how much influence did B & B have ?
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 19, 2018 10:40:02 GMT
Personally.. Each single has its place in time, yes you can have Golden periods,( UK was from SOS, 1975 to 80) but it doesn't necessarily mean that other tracks were not of a standard to the time they were released, take I Do.. and LAYLOM, absolutely miles apart but ok for the time of release...so it has to be from ones own perspective, so therefore from a UK angle I think the wrong releases are ...
Does Your Mother Know..... should have been flipped to Kisses Of Fire or As Good As New. Under Attack.... Just Like That ? ThankYou For The Music... Just should never have been released in 83 , 78 possibly.....but even then better tracks on The Album...
I could add I Have A Dream, not a track I particularly like , but for a Christmas single it was perfect, as nothing else was available.
its not to say I don't like the above, I just think better choices could have been made, and more of them.. then that's another story...😀
Again I deviate from Intial topic, sorry. But sometimes it adds to discussion....
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 17, 2018 19:11:06 GMT
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 17, 2018 17:59:56 GMT
I could listen to 60s 70s 80s and some 90s all day long , so much better than today's rubbish... in my opinion ironically ^^ I Won't Let You Go is one of my Agnetha favourites....
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 16, 2018 18:58:55 GMT
^^^ surprisingly quite a good film, watch it some time... very camp very ABBA, very Australian...
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 16, 2018 15:50:09 GMT
I have 4, none of which I listen to today.
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 16, 2018 15:20:32 GMT
Alas for Agnetha and Frida, as much as I like some of the solo tracks, I feel none have transcended time well and are stuck in their own era.....
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 16, 2018 15:17:46 GMT
^^^^ I think if memory serves me right, that the above "fact" is a line from Priscilla Queen Of The Desert, between Guy Pearce and Terence Stamp..hanging around some toilets ....so if so probably untrue...
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 14, 2018 18:08:10 GMT
If we are going by single releases (UK) , then it's hard to move away from ^^, TNOTG is timeless, and TFTM has aged badly probably as it's now classed as cheesy. Some tracks have been played to death, like Waterloo, Mamma Mia, even Dancing Queen, a few are stuck in their own time zone, like Lay All Your Love On Me, Voulez Vous, others have transcended thanks to remix/ other artists, Gimme Gimme Gimme for instance. I would have said Fernando being really out dated, but thanks yes thanks to Cher, it can sound good in the present. Overall and I can't believe I'm saying this.. , I do think ABBA in general is in over kill and there's to much around at the moment, bring on the new stuff ..
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 7, 2018 20:34:35 GMT
^^^ I have to agree, for whatever reason and it's very exasperating that so few post here, it can literally be days before someone says "hello" let alone have anything to say. ok there are certain posts that are of no interest to myself, but I try to get a thread going. There are now nearly 400 and at a guess less than 25 " fans" contribute, even if it's like myself now responding to the above... I know it's referring to the last " site" but we had a favourite top 100 tracks so many commented on it, went on daily for months, is a good instance of keeping an interest going... or are we ^^ Wasting our breath or is this a subtle way of peeking interest and hoping for a response ...
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 3, 2018 19:22:19 GMT
With 3/4 of year over, the Official Chart company has just published its best selling albums so far of the year here in the UK,
Mamma Mia Here We Go Again is 4th, with around 256,000 sales Gold 15th, with around 124,000 sales Mamma Mia 35th
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 3, 2018 8:30:18 GMT
It's all getting a little exciting, ironically after the post I made earlier, ( perhaps I should predict more! And something will happen ) rumour mill is in full swing, now there's 4 tracks a possible album, its hard not to get carried away.. I do hope it all comes To fruition, we have waited so long for something, it would be a great way to say goodbye once and for all.. and I think we'd be happy... counting the days, however many that will be..
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 2, 2018 18:01:32 GMT
^^^^The Standard.. not a bad paper ..so the rumour mill carries on....can we still all hope..
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 1, 2018 8:46:46 GMT
Well surprise surprise, it's all looking remarkably good for Cher, even a potential number 1 album on the horizons, the power of ABBA in the UK is amazing, ( not saying it's not big anywhere else, but here it's phenomenal) .
There must be some reason that after all this time , the same tracks regardless of who , still making it big, you would think we would all be sick to death of hearing another Dancing Queen, or 40 year old plus ABBA track....but apparently not..
It would make a great thesis for some university student to do , on why !
Its just a shame, that because of the why the singles charts are formatted that she can't seem to get any hit singles, in my reckoning she would possibly have had 4 ABBA related top 75 hits...so far , but statistically a big fat 0....
Mid weeks are out today that will give good indicator of what will be come Friday for the official chart.....
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