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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 11:00:04 GMT
It has now been revealed that 'The Day Before You Came' by Meryl Streep, is only on the Digital Download of the Soundtrack Album.
It is not on the CD of the Soundtrack Album.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 17:01:32 GMT
So far this Week 'ABBA Gold' and the 1st 'Mamma Mia!' Soundtrack have done this in the UK's Mid Week Charts.
The OCC also calls them 'Chart Flashes'.
'Mamma Mia!' (Film 1 Soundtrack): Monday - No.19, Tuesday - No.20, Wednesday - No.19 and Thursday - No.17
'ABBA Gold' has done this in the Mid Weeks: Monday - No.21, Tuesday - No.22, Wednesday - No.22 and Thursday - No.22
All of which means that ABBA related CD's will have 3 places in next Week's UK Top 30 as 'Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again' will enter the Chart of W/E 19th July 2018 in the Top 10. (Most likely in the Top 5).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 21:59:14 GMT
Today The OCC, (Official UK Charts Company), revealed this information about the UK Sales, of the DVD/Blu-ray of the first 'Mamma Mia!' Film:
"The first Mamma Mia! movie is officially the biggest selling DVD/Blu-ray of all time, with 5,780,000 Million sold."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2018 12:09:03 GMT
The Film Soundtrack is currently doing very well in the Global iTunes Charts. it is Top 5 in many Countries, including No.3 in the UK iTunes Chart.
However, we have to remember that the Film has yet to be released in most Countries.
The Soundtrack should do even better when the Film is being shown all over the World.
I listened to the Film Soundtrack last night.
I was delighted to find that I liked it far more than I expected to.
The arrangements of several Songs have been changed and so have the lyrics.
I was pleased that Benny & Bjorn still realise that backing vocals are essential on many ABBA Songs.
The backing vocals work very well indeed on 'Knowing Me, Knowing You'. From what I recall, it is the only Song on the CD where Pierce Brosnan has a part on his own. But, other people also have their own parts in the Song, so Pierce's 'part' never gets the chance to ruin things. (I'm pleased that Dominic Cooper also only has a lead vocal on 'One Of Us', as he cannot sing, either...).
Sadly, one of my favourite ABBA Songs is spoiled a bit. They have let an absolutely awful Male 'Singer' do the 1st Verse and he is terrible. It is 'Kisses Of Fire'. Luckily, the rest of the Song is dominated by Female vocals and they just about save it. But why Benny & Bjorn allowed the fellow to 'sing' any of it is a great mystery. He is by far the worst 'singer' in the entire Film!!!
I was enchanted by Meryl Streep's 'The Day Before You Came'. Instead of being Synth driven, like ABBA's original, it is now piano driven, and it is truly lovely and engaging. Instead of saying that she watches a lot of 'Dallas', Meryl says that she watches all of the Episodes of 'House Of Cards'.
I am disappointed by 'Waterloo' as Hugh Skinner's voice irritates me. Also, I think that 'Dancing Queen' is not as strong as it was in Film 1. It seems to be a little bit slower, and to lack some energy. 'Angel Eyes' also seems to be less strong & energetic than ABBA's original. It just seems a little weak...
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Post by gary on Jul 13, 2018 12:56:49 GMT
Yes, Meryl Streep’s TDBYC is surprisingly lovely.
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Post by foreverfan on Jul 13, 2018 14:47:21 GMT
OMG..😀
The soundtrack is so so much better than anticipated , it really is worth a listen, and I surprise myself in saying that😮
One track in particular is fantastic, it's always been a favourite anyhow, it's I've Been Waiting For You, the lyrics have been changed and dare I say for the better😮 It actually brought a lump to my throat and water to the eyes, some might say I'm soft😀 But seriously it is very well done in my humble opinion.
one track is nearly ruined, but give it 30 seconds and it redeems itself.. Kisses Of Fire, another huge favourite of mine, thankfully saved.
Meryl does a haunting version and again ( I keep saying that ) is remarkably good.
over all it bodes well for the film and seeing all the tracks in context, dare I say the film could be as good if not better.
exciting times
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Post by madonnabba on Jul 14, 2018 7:45:59 GMT
The one song which could have done with reworked lyrics is I Have A Dream.
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Post by madonnabba on Jul 14, 2018 8:31:44 GMT
Just listened to the Soundtrack. Looking forward to the film. Loving .... I’ve been waiting for you and My love My Life . As for The Day Before You Came....wow. So haunting.
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Post by gary on Jul 14, 2018 10:07:06 GMT
^ Those seem to be the highlights. I rather like Super Trouper too. I assume we have Benny to thank for the lovely new arrangements.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2018 17:17:33 GMT
NOTE -- I've just added this rather long Post to an ABBA Forum, elsewhere on The Internet. I thought that some ABBA Fans here may find something of interest in it...
Benny and Nameless -- I know that neither of you think very much about Meryl Streep's version of 'The Day Before You Came'. I hated the ABBA original, in 1982, but now I like it. I instantly like Meryl Streep's version. Looking around The Internet, I see Meryl's version getting a lot of praise. As usual with ABBA Songs, some people like and some people hate. Some call Meryl's version 'Haunting', and others call it 'Boring'. At the end of the day, it is all a matter of personal taste and opinion.
Meryl's version is Track 18 on the Soundtrack CD. However, I have heard that the Song is not sung in the Film. If it is not in the Film, then this is likely to mean that Meryl Streep is only a 'Flashback' character in the Film. That she has 'Died'. The New arrangement of 'The Day Before You Came' would then be her 'Haunting Goodbye' Song, on the CD. We will see.
THE SOUNDTRACK CD -- For some reason, Benny and Bjorn are always very unsure about how 'Good' or 'Bad' ABBA's Non-Singles Tracks are. I think that is why they were too nervous to put totally 'fresh' ABBA Songs on the Soundtrack. They felt that they had to 'Prop Them Up', with several Singles from the 1st 'Mamma Mia!' Film. They had to use the Title Single again, as it would be odd if that were not in it. But, was it really necessary to give us these again too? 'I Have A Dream', 'Dancing Queen', 'The Name Of The Game', (on Soundtrack 1, but not in the Film), 'Waterloo', (in Film 1, but not on Soundtrack 1), and 'Super Trouper'. To be fair - 'Super Trouper' is given a New arrangement this time. However, I feel that 'Dancing Queen' is not as strong/loud as it was in Film 1. Both the vocals and music sound less energetic. I know that 'Angel Eyes' is one of the 'Fresh' ABBA Songs in Film 2. However, it seems to lack the energy and power of ABBA's original. It is weaker...
Some Fans are already saying that Soundtrack 2 is 'Disappointing', due to it having several Songs from the 1st Film. Whereas other Fans are complaining that they wanted more Songs from the 1st Film in Film/Soundtrack 2, because they 'Don't know' several of the 'New' Songs! As usual, Benny and Bjorn cannot win. ABBA Fans tend to want different things. Some want Songs that they already know and others want more 'New'/'Fresh' Songs...
I know that Benny and Bjorn love 'I Wonder (Departure)'. Like a lot of ABBA Fans I've never been terribly keen on it. However, I rather like the 'New' version in Film 2. I'm sure that a lot of ABBA Fans could/would have chosen several other 'Lesser Known ABBA Songs' for Film 2. I've always loved, 'Tiger', Move On', 'Hole In Your Soul', 'As Good As New', and 'If It Wasn't For The Nights'. However, I bet Benny and Bjorn would gave many reasons why none of my choices were good enough for Film 2. That goes for any 'New' Songs that other ABBA Fans might have chosen.
I've heard that Cher has already said that a 'Mamma Mia! 3' has been discussed. However, I think that the 2 'Mamma Mia!' Films are enough. If they made a 3rd Film, Benny and Bjorn would only use some ABBA Songs from Films 1 and 2 again, and it would only look like they're forever trying to get cash out of Fans of 'Mamma Mia!' and ABBA, by re-using the same ABBA Songs time and time again. You can only get away with using the same old Songs for so long - then people turn on you, and stop buying the Soundtracks, and stop going to see the Films. I do hope that Benny and Bjorn realise this.
Benny and Bjorn do make mistakes - as can be seen and heard by them letting that Male 'singer' have the 1st 30 seconds on 'Kisses Of Fire', in Film 2! The Female vocals are fine on it - and they should have been used for the entire Song. But, Benny and Bjorn just had to let Panos 'Sing', at the start of it!
The Soundtrack is currently No.2 in the Global & European iTunes Album Charts. It is at No.6 in the UK iTunes Chart - down from No.3 yesterday. However, we have to remember that the Film is not yet out in the UK and most other Countries. It has its 'World Premiere', in London on Monday - 16th - and it is released in most of the World - including the UK - next Friday - 20th July. That is when the Soundtrack's Sales will rise much more. Due to people seeing the Film and all of the Media publicity etc.
I doubt if 'ABBA Gold' will get to No.1 again, as it did due to the 2008 Film. It has sold well over 5,300,000 to 5,400,000 UK copies, and there are not so many people, (who like ABBA), left to buy it. It may or may not get back into the UK Top 10. We will see. (If the 1st Film Soundtrack had been allowed into the UK Artist Album Chart in 2008, 'ABBA Gold' would not have been able to return to No.1. It would have got no higher than No.2).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 14:48:08 GMT
Bjorn and Benny are currently in London. They said that, whilst ABBA enjoyed recording the 2 New Singles, there will not be a future ABBA Album.
The 'My Love, My Life' scene in 'Mamma Mia! 2' is very similar to the scene in 'Mamma Mia! 1', where Donna sings 'Slipping Through My Fingers' to her daughter. It was the first time that most people had ever heard 'Slipping Through My Fingers'. Just as 'Mamma Mia! 2' will be the first time that most people will have heard 'My Love, My Life'.
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Post by foreverfan on Jul 15, 2018 15:22:21 GMT
Hey... they said never again time and time again.... can we believe anything they say...lol they are teasers.....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 12:10:22 GMT
At present the 'Mamma Mia! Film Soundtrack is the World's 'Best Selling Album' on Worldwide iTunes.
It is doing almost as well on European iTunes - it is Europe's 2nd 'Best Selling Album' there.
I'm rather disappointed that the Soundtrack is 'only' at No.7 in UK iTunes - one of the lowest placings in any Country. It was as high as No.3 on UK iTunes on Friday, but then it dropped to 4 - then 5 - then 6 - now 7. Hopefully it will rise again when the Film is actually released.
I have seen various people saying that the Soundtrack has too many slow Songs on it. That this makes it 'boring' compared to the 1st Soundtrack. As the Stage Show and the 1st Film made a big thing about the Audience 'Singing along', I'd have added more up-tempo ABBA Songs to the 2nd Soundtrack. People tend to sing along to them more...
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Post by Zeebee on Jul 16, 2018 20:46:49 GMT
Benny and Bjorn do make mistakes - as can be seen and heard by them letting that 'Buffoon' have the 1st 30 seconds on 'Kisses Of Fire', in Film 2! The Female vocals are fine on it - and they should have been used for the entire Song. But, Benny and Bjorn just had to let the imbecile 'Sing', at the start of it .Let's not call people names. Just because someone's singing is not good doesn't mean he is a buffoon or an imbecile.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 10:42:05 GMT
From the Reviews of 'Mamma Mia! 2' I've learned several things.
1)... 'Old' Donna - Meryl Streep - is only shown in Flash-Backs. It turns out that she Died a Year earlier.
2)... Despite the hype about Cher being in it, she only appears near the end of the Film. Her time on screen is about 8 to 10 Minutes. (You'd never guess by the way the Trailers made it look like she had a really huge part in it!).
3)... Lily James gets the most screen time. She sings on at least 9 of the ABBA Songs. Luckily she can actually sing - and act. (You'd never suspect that she is English and not an American).
4)... Pierce Brosnan gets very little singing in Film 2. Although he has another 'go' at 'SOS' and he does it better this time. (But, 'SOS' is not on the Soundtrack CD or the Download).
5)... Instead of hating the 'Waterloo' scene, due to Hugh Skinner's awful 'singing', several Critics find it 'Charming', and they really like the performance.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 11:15:27 GMT
I've been reading Reviews of 'Mamma Mia! 2' all over The Internet.
Some say it is great. Others say it is rather weak.
Some Critics say that only the 'Hits' from Film 1 work in Film 2. That the less well known Songs are not very good. That all of ABBA's best Songs were in Film 1. That there was nothing left for Film 2.
Other Critics love the less well known Songs and think that they are good.
As usual it is all a matter of personal taste. I've never, ever accepted that any ABBA Songs, that were not 'A' Sides on Singles, are no good, weak, crap, not worth listening to etc.
The Critics, who dislike the less well known Songs, say the silliest things. 'There is a reason they were not on ABBA Gold'. They mean that they were rubbish and that is why they aren't on 'Gold'. Too stupid to realise that there was no room on 'ABBA Gold' for more than 19 Tracks. That is why the less well known Tracks could not go on 'Gold', even if ABBA wanted them to. It was nothing to do with how 'bad' they were.
One Critic said that 'When I Kissed The Teacher' is 'not catchy'. To me, that is taking criticism too far. It is one of ABBA's catchiest Songs and he pretends that it has no 'hooks' in it.
I've watched and read numerous Critics saying that, 'All ABBA's best songs were in the first film'. But, how can they know that? I bet that hardly any of them have ever listened to more than 20 to 30 ABBA Songs. If you listed ABBA's Album Tracks for them, they'd say that they've never even heard most of them! But they are 'Expert' enough to know that, 'All the best ABBA songs were used in Film 1'. They have no idea what they are talking about. They are not qualified to make such statements...
Another Critic said that ABBA only had slow ballads left, after Film 1 - which is why Film 2 has so many of them. He too has no idea what ABBA recorded...
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Post by foreverfan on Jul 19, 2018 12:38:33 GMT
I thought I'd posted this... hey must be losing it..🙄
It's as they say in the eye of the beholder, there's always going to be good and bad reviews, and a lot of ignorance, it's media hype, the British love to pan something before it's even begun..
If it's measured on success, then a few hundred million in profit will silence a few, as that is what it will make, a failure I think not....
A guess, but I bet 90% plus of people who come out of the cinema will in some way have enjoyed it and have a smile on their faces, who could deny that in these troublesome times especially here in the UK.
It will only last a few short weeks, then the DVD at Christmas, so why not bring some joy to the world, we all know it's never going to win any oscars, but that's not what it's all about...
It's fun with a capital F😀
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Post by Zeebee on Jul 19, 2018 20:52:36 GMT
A radio talk show host I listen to regularly, who is also a movie critic, declared that he is not going to see the new Mamma Mia movie. Of the first one, he said, "That movie sucked". But he has also said in the past that he hates ABBA.
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Post by madonnabba on Jul 20, 2018 0:40:10 GMT
Critics are only people with opinions. Why they are paid for their opinions is beyond me. And some with inflated egos who believe that people really hang on their every word. I usually trust the opinions of family and friends. Much more reliable. I doubt if Universal, Abba fans and movie fans are losing sleep over this person’s loathing of everything Abba. Maybe this ‘celeb’ thinks he or she can do better and sell more than 400 million records worldwide not to mention the industry that is Mamma Mia and the jobs that have been sustained over the years by the Abba brand. I suspect not.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 5:35:27 GMT
One Reviewer of the 2nd Film called 'Angel Eyes' and 'One Of Us', 'Forgotten' ABBA Songs.
A lot of Critics only seem to know ABBA's biggest Global Hits. Everything else they call, 'Forgotten', or 'B Sides', or 'Second Tier ABBA Songs' - or even 'Third Tier ABBA Songs'.
Then, they go on as if they know every Song that ABBA recorded and state things like any ABBA Songs that were not 'Big Hit Singles' or not 'Included in Film 1', are rubbish!!!
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Post by madonnabba on Jul 20, 2018 7:40:40 GMT
Some of these critics are no doubt from the USA which was the only major sales territory that did not embrace Abba with same gusto as everywhere else. They were besotted with everything Bee Gees at the time. Regardless of where the critics are from, their reviews are poorly researched and somewhat lazy. Abba are not the sum of their singles. Many unreleased album tracks could have been singles. Michael Jackson released practically every song from some of his albums. I considered some of those tracks should not have been released as singles. I guess some critics struggle to recognise the 2nd biggest selling band of all time. Critics should get a real job and save us from their opinions or if they have to ... they should at least do their research and give a balanced opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 13:00:00 GMT
The soundtrack entered the Swedish Collections Charts at No. 2 and the Physical Album Charts at No. 4 this week.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 15:52:05 GMT
Contro -- It looks like Sweden has the same Chart Rules that the UK had, until a few Months ago.
Which means Film Soundtracks are not allowed into the Artist, (Main), Album Chart.
I've also noticed that 'ABBA Gold' never re-enters the Swedish Artist Album Chart any more. This is either because it does not get enough 'Streaming', or it is at a lower price - Mid Price - and it is only allowed into the Mid Price Chart.
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Post by Michal on Jul 20, 2018 17:47:28 GMT
Has anyone here actually seen the movie yet? One of my colleagues has and she said it has no plot whatsoever. Yesterday I saw a terrible review (by a critic I personally respect) that almost made me not go and see the film. He reviewed the movie itself, not the songs (which he called "real earworms" :-)). The only thing that comforted me in the end was that he admitted he didn't like the first film either. However, he definitely thought that the first film worked quite well for a "jukebox" musical but the second does not.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 18:51:09 GMT
Michal -- Pay no attention to the Critics. The 2nd Film - over-all - is getting better Reviews than the 1st Film. A lot of Critics have no idea what they are talking about.
I recall the 'Melody Maker' Reviews of 'The Singles' in 1982. That UK Music Paper never liked ABBA. The Reviewer said that the Songs were no good and that, 'These ladies just cannot sing!'. It was insane, that he'd say that just because he hated ABBA.
Yes, the plot of Film 2 is very weak and silly, but it is really a chance to 'hang' the ABBA Songs onto it. It is there to watch and have fun. It does not pretend to be 'The Sound Of Music' or 'Gone With The Wind', or any other 'Classic' Film. No more than ABBA pretended to be Bob Dylan and do 'serious' Songs.
A lot of Critics know very little about ABBA. I read one tonight, who thinks that 'Arrival' was their 1st Album!
Personally I think that ABBA Songs belong in a huge Cartoon Fantasy Film, with loads of Special Effects.
It is rather sad that Benny and Bjorn think that 'Good Plots' are like something from a 2nd Rate Soap Opera. ABBA Songs deserve better. Benny and Bjorn are not as wise as they think they are about how to use ABBA Songs.
The 2 Films are really mindless 'fun'. They could be far, far better, but it is too late now...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 20:04:56 GMT
I've not seen 'Mamma Mia! 2' yet. However, I've heard that some of the Songs are not the way they sound on the Soundtrack CD and Download.
Also, that not all of the scenes in the Trailers are in the Film, and some of the Trailer scenes, (that are in it), have been re-shot, so they are not quite the same.
I don't know how true all of this is...
USA Film Critic, Leonard Maltin has given the Film a poor Review. He makes a prediction for it too. He says that it will have about the same Box Office staying power as 'Grease 2', in 1982.
He says that the 'new' ABBA Songs in Film 2 are 'ABBA's B-level tunes'.
That Film is regarded as a huge Flop. In the UK it went into our Top 10 at No.6 and then fell right out, the next Week. I think that Mr. Maltin will be proved very wrong in his prediction...
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Post by Michal on Jul 24, 2018 19:16:40 GMT
I've just returned from the cinema and I have to admit the movie is a real crap, especially the first half. Many of the songs are included with the sole purpose of having them in it and they don't do anything for the plot (which is altogether very, very weak). During some of them I was just wondering why on earth they sing just that right now. There are many awkward moments… one of them is Pierce Brosnan singing SOS again, this time solo, and trying to make it sound and look poignant. But one of the most embarrassing moments IMO is the WIKTT scene, which really makes no sense at all. I also don't understand why they used songs that they had to rework so extensively (e.g. My Love, My Life or I've Been Waiting For You - both great songs but the verses have completely different lyrics to fit the movie and the whole point of making the Mamma Mia musical was to use the EXISTING ABBA songs with minimal altering, wasn't it?).
On the positive note… there are a few really funny moments - not as many as in the first movie, but enough to make you think the whole experience is actually fun. Even the heavily criticized scene with Kisses Of Fire is in fact funny (or at least to me it seemed so and it was definitely meant to be). The question is if such a version deserves to be included on the soundtrack but in the context of the movie it works.
Cher, even though looking as a wax figurine, is great. Of course her version of Fernando can't beat ABBA's original but she is really good.
The songs I especially liked were Knowing Me, Knowing You and Angeleyes. And there are many uncredited ABBA songs playing as a background music (e.g. I Let The Music Speak) - and I enjoyed trying to identify them.
There is a really great mix of instrumental versions of various ABBA songs playing during the credit titles.
Altogether the movie was enjoyable but it is far worse that the first one and I really hope they won't do another sequel...
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Post by gary on Jul 24, 2018 21:00:25 GMT
Michal, that pretty much sums up my opinion of the film as well. I thought it was inferior to the first film, which itself is hardly a masterpiece. Completely agree with you about the WIKTT sequence, and the way songs were squeezed into the ‘plot’. Another problem I had was that it just wasn’t funny. The only thing I really liked was the incidental instrumental music.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 21:20:08 GMT
Michal and Gary -- After just 3 days, (Friday to Sunday 20th to 22nd July), of the UK Sales of the 2nd Film's Soundtrack, I came to a conclusion. The Soundtrack is only going to sell a fraction of what Soundtrack 1 sold. The DVD will only sell a fraction of what the 1st Film's DVD sold. Many people have not liked Film 2 and they do not want to buy the Soundtrack, or the DVD of the Film. They want to forget it - as fast as possible.
The 2nd Film will not make anywhere as much cash as Film 1 - either in the UK or Worldwide.
Nor will Film 2 have much staying power. Film 1 was still as high as No.2 at the UK Box Office, after 11 Weeks.
I had hoped that Film 2 would do better, but there are too many silly decisions in it. I was not expecting that at all. Benny and Bjorn had the power to see that no mistakes were made with Film 2, but they just seem to have let the script writer(s) get on with it. Now the Film will pay the price.
At least it will make far, far more cash than 'Grease 2'. That cost nearly $12 Million to make and it made less than $16 Million. 'Mamma Mia! 2' made over $70 Million Worldwide, last Weekend alone.
Film 2 should have been far better. I'm disappointed with it all. Very disillusioned.
1)... There will not be a Stage Show of Film 2. It is too much of a mess. Benny and Bjorn must already realize that.
2)... There will not be a 3rd 'Mamma Mia!' Film. There is no point now. Benny and Bjorn make too many errors of judgement.
People went to see Film 1 to have fun and to hear a lot of uptempo ABBA Songs. Not for there too be too many slow Songs in Film 2.
Film 2 kills off one of their favourite characters. That made a lot of Film 1 Fans very angry indeed. It was a stupid decision...
Then the Trailers made you think that another character had a big part. A lot of people feel cheated by that too.
Too many slow Songs were used in Film 2. The mood is often rather doom and gloom. So - even the fun of Film 1 was largely taken away in Film 2. The Film and Plot has alienated a lot of people.
I find Film 2 an embarrassment. I'm hoping that the Film, fuss and hype fades away very fast.
Benny and Bjorn would do better to focus on ABBA. Not silly Soap Opera like Films, that use their Songs - often badly.
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Post by foreverfan on Jul 25, 2018 7:29:02 GMT
Ok, there's seems to be a lot of negativity,
Yes it might not be as good as the first, I think a lot of that boils down to familiarity, it's not new, what was the alternative, no film at all, no hype in Awarness, just the same old stuff living in hope of the odd track on radio two in the UK.
Yes it won't sell as much, we are in a different era, 10 years later, CD s were prominent then sold by the bucket load and the adage still prevails it was new...now it's all streaming and down loading, I don't know the numbers but very few number ones sell millions anymore, take The Greatest Showman, 21 weeks at number one here in the UK and it's only just sold over a million...
I'm not saying it's a great film, and yes probably ALL of us could have had our penny's worth in improving , but it's here , it will have its moment, it will promote our favourite group all over again. It's all down to personal choice of course, it's a new audience, those kids of ten years ago are now teenagers, so a whole new generation, listening to ABBA, is that such a bad thing...personally no.
Yes it's all a personal point of view, and I get that, but what was the alternative.... Nothing.... No doubt some would have preferred that but I'm glad it's here, even Cher and Fernando, who would have thought 40 plus years later we would be hearing that again....
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