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Post by johnny on Sept 4, 2023 12:08:06 GMT
No performance at all or fan (and celeb) only show?
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Post by scaramouche on Sept 4, 2023 21:15:59 GMT
No performance at all or fan (and celeb) only show? Sorry to be a realist but what have performances of Mamma Mia or Voyage in London got to do with Eurovision in Sweden!? Surely if ABBA were planning on doing something it would be love from Sweden, pre-recorded or possibly the premiere of one of the new songs, in which case it would almost certainly be a video. |
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Post by bennybjorn on Sept 4, 2023 21:18:22 GMT
No performance at all or fan (and celeb) only show? Sorry to be a realist but what have performances of Mamma Mia or Voyage in London got to do with Eurovision I’m Sweden!? Surely if ABBA were planning on doing something it would be love from Sweden, pre-recorded or possibly the premiere of one of the new songs, in which case it would almost certainly be a video. Fair comments but we've had plenty of other indicators that something is planned. Bjorn said/implied they would be doing something new to mark the occasion and Agnetha said in her very recent interview that she couldn't let on what was planned. So, something is almost definitely happening... |
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Post by gazman on Sept 5, 2023 0:57:48 GMT
No performance at all or fan (and celeb) only show? As of right now, there is no Voyage performance at all scheduled for Saturday 6th April 2024. Whether something is added in nearer the time is a different matter.... |
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Post by gazman on Sept 5, 2023 1:07:03 GMT
.....Agnetha said in her very recent interview that she couldn't let on what was planned...... Agnetha did not say that. She said that she would keep quiet in answer to the question i.e. she chose not to comment. You can draw your own conclusion from what she did say, but she did not confirm that something was planned and she was choosing not to disclose it. |
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Post by voyage2 on Sept 5, 2023 7:13:38 GMT
They could be planning a special performance by the Voyage show ABBAtars live (or recorded just to make sure technically there are no glitches) during the interval via video link (if that's what it's called these days)!? Perhaps ABBA could do new motion capture for Waterloo or a new single?! Or Waterloo and announce a new single is coming? Would certainly advertise the Voyage Show to a huge audience! I imagine there will be a lot of Eurovision fans at the Voyage show that night anyway (if there is one of course).
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Post by johnny on Sept 5, 2023 10:03:34 GMT
It seems there will be *something* on 6th April - the 50th anniversary of Waterloo win
Next year's contest final is on 11th May. It's probably best they do something on their anniversary, if they do - and not upstage the contest.
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Post by HOMETIME on Sept 5, 2023 10:30:05 GMT
Imagine if this ABBA-The Movie cinema thingy was some kind of market research/rehearsal for an international cinema event on 6 April 2024 to mark ABBA's 50th (Eurovision) anniversary? A documentary with old live footage, some Voyage footage, new videos, even new music and interviews. ABBA appear in person at its opening in London or Stockholm, with a live feed to the cinemas showing the movie/event. Because it's cinema, there's a lower risk of the Voyage footage being bootlegged and it'd serve as a mahoosive ad for the show. Gets fans out of the house for an internationally newsworthy event.
Maybe I'm just over-caffeinated.
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Post by foreverfan on Sept 5, 2023 10:51:51 GMT
At Eurovision, I just really hope it's not a rehashed Waterloo video from 1974 and they or worse 3 of them walk out and wave for 30 seconds...😱
It's gotta be more.. surely... but hey....
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Post by richard on Sept 5, 2023 11:26:00 GMT
Good point, Johnny. I don't think either ABBA or the ESC organisers would like to to do anything that detracts from/upstages the contestants' big night. So I think a nice little video with a reference to their Waterloo win and wishing the contestants "Good luck and have a great night" will be it from ABBA. And if only we could turn your highly-caffeinated imagination into reality, Tony!  |
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Post by voyage2 on Sept 5, 2023 12:35:09 GMT
Agree with you all since my last post!
It has to be the 6th. I really, really want/prefer a documentary! One that will be available on DVD not long after! A decent interview, Voyage clips, behind the scenes recording the Voyage album etc, that would be fantastic. I am sure that would go to number one in the DVD charts around the world. A new song + a DVD would be a great final goodbye really. It would wrap things up nicely.
Maybe a good luck to the contestants on Eurovision night, but I agree it's not their night (I mentioned this in a previous post).
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Post by bennybjorn on Sept 5, 2023 14:19:21 GMT
.....Agnetha said in her very recent interview that she couldn't let on what was planned...... Agnetha did not say that. She said that she would keep quiet in answer to the question i.e. she chose not to comment. You can draw your own conclusion from what she did say, but she did not confirm that something was planned and she was choosing not to disclose it. Yep - fair point. Nothing was denied is all that can be said with any certainty. |
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Post by Michal on Nov 10, 2023 20:15:51 GMT
Seeing such a weak song can reach No.1 [The Beatles - Now and Then], it really was a missed opportunity with the first two Voyage singles. The Beatles are clearly still much bigger than ABBA. And the promotion was probably better handled. Let's hope that "the last ABBA song ever" will be a triumph, if we ever get one 🙂
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Post by Alan on Nov 10, 2023 23:27:07 GMT
"The last ABBA song ever" is likely to be a song or infact the two unreleased Voyage songs. That they weren't even on Voyage is not a good omen. I’m not so sure…. they were unfinished but Benny said they were “quite good” and it’s just possible that more work was needed on them and they simply didn’t have enough time to finish them. Or perhaps they thought the album might need to be longer than it was. It was fortuitous that, by 2021, album lengths were as long as they had been when ABBA had originally recorded, as they were once again designed for vinyl (and streaming) and not CD. I listened to Madonna’s Erotica album from 1992 the other day. It has 14 tracks and is an hour and 15 minutes. I love the album so I didn’t get bored, but it certainly does go on! And there was no standard/deluxe nonsense. This was it, the one version of it (there was apparently a 13-track edition but that was more to make it a “cleaner” version, though more than one track would have had to be removed to make it truly “clean”!) And it’s also possible that ABBA already had an eye on the 2024 anniversary and deliberately wanted to hold something back from the Voyage sessions for it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2023 8:53:11 GMT
It's fair to say that, in itself, being 'previously unreleased' or 'unfinished' isn't necessarily a guarantee of low, or lower, quality. There can be all kinds of reasons for a track not seeing the light of day, remaining incomplete etc. And even if Benny, for instance, didn't like a song (which doesn't seem to be the case with the 'surplus' Voyage material), that's not to say us lot wouldn't love it. He rates TKHLHC very highly but not many of us would put it in the top drawer, or even the top few drawers. So the reverse could certainly apply. (Come to think of it, some bands even had entire lost albums which were arguably stronger than the album eventually released, but I won't bore you with examples.)
At least, where ABBA's 'lost' Voyage songs are concerned, this is what I need to believe!
On Alan's point about album lengths, there was a time when far too many albums were being released that were comfortably over an hour, just because it was technically possible to do so. But very, very few albums benefit from being longer than, say, 45-50 minutes.
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Post by bjorenny on Nov 11, 2023 12:54:45 GMT
"The last ABBA song ever" is likely to be a song or infact the two unreleased Voyage songs. That they weren't even on Voyage is not a good omen. I'm hoping that if they were held back intentionally for the 2024 anniversary, and "resting" according to Benny (rather than scrapped) that they are humdingers of a tune ( 1 uptempo, 1 ballad?) that will be released as a double-A side in at least 10 souvenir editions which will give ABBA their 10th UK Number 1 single. It could just be that they didn't fit the theme of Voyage. |
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Post by HOMETIME on Nov 11, 2023 13:06:20 GMT
With regard to the two Voyage-related songs, I'm hoping that it was just a matter of having been short on time. B&B have had misgivings about beloved songs over the years. Angeleyes and One Of Us spring to mind: imagine being without them?
Assuming they're single-worthy, I'd prefer separate releases myself.
I hope that there will be some announcements and signposts coming soon about what to expect in 2024. If they want us to part with our cash, it'd be a kindness to let us prepare by selling our kidneys on ebay first.
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Post by mymamasaid on Nov 12, 2023 21:20:14 GMT
Hi, I'm very late to this thread, but, my $0.02: either they're not good enough to have made Voyage and may need a ton of work, or they're really good and were worth holding back, or they ran out of time - but then they had an extra 12+ months' grace from the pandemic which delayed everything...
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Post by bennybjorn on Nov 20, 2023 20:49:44 GMT
Is it just me or...
have B&B been uncharacteristically quiet in recent times?
It's almost as if they're hidden away somewhere working on a batch of new songs!
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Post by gazman on Nov 28, 2023 13:44:29 GMT
Is it just me or... have B&B been uncharacteristically quiet in recent times? It's almost as if they're hidden away somewhere working on a batch of new songs! They've still been busy. Björn has been travelling quite a bit in the last few months, doing his work as President of CISAC and such. Benny has been putting the finishing touches to the next BAO album as well. |
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Post by bennybjorn on Nov 29, 2023 15:51:03 GMT
Is it just me or... have B&B been uncharacteristically quiet in recent times? It's almost as if they're hidden away somewhere working on a batch of new songs! They've still been busy. Björn has been travelling quite a bit in the last few months, doing his work as President of CISAC and such. Benny has been putting the finishing touches to the next BAO album as well. Thanks for the info. So Benny is still composing new songs. Odd - he implied that he/Abba were just too old now to keep going. Bit heart-breaking that potentially great new songs that could've been Abba will be BAO instead. Each to his own but I'm no fan of the BAO singers, |
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Post by Alan on Nov 30, 2023 23:37:29 GMT
There was a fan club webinar last night apparently.
Nicked from another forum:
Janne Schaffer was there and said "next year will be fantastic, I promise you"…
Carl Magnus Palm revealed that 'Hit By A Train' is "more than a rumour".
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Post by johnny on Dec 1, 2023 0:20:25 GMT
Which other forum?
"Hit By a Train" I love that title! Lol!
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Post by Alan on Dec 1, 2023 4:09:42 GMT
PopJustice. We don’t really know what is meant by “more than a rumour”. It could just be that a track of that title does exist, not necessarily that it’s now finished and ready for release. Hopefully we’ll find out next year.
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Post by Michal on Dec 1, 2023 6:56:17 GMT
So the teasing and hinting have begun. I wonder when we can expect some official announcement. Not earlier than in January, I bet.
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Post by justabba on Dec 1, 2023 8:30:26 GMT
PopJustice. We don’t really know what is meant by “more than a rumour”. It could just be that a track of that title does exist, not necessarily that it’s now finished and ready for release. Hopefully we’ll find out next year. Thats really interesting! I was conducting last night so couldn't attend the zoom. I had, however , two friends who kept me fully informed throughout the evening. They both concur what Janne said,but neither heard CMP make any comment about the train track. I wonder how pop justice got that information? Be interested to know! |
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Post by ianunderattack on Dec 1, 2023 10:05:05 GMT
PopJustice. We don’t really know what is meant by “more than a rumour”. It could just be that a track of that title does exist, not necessarily that it’s now finished and ready for release. Hopefully we’ll find out next year. Thats really interesting! I was conducting last night so couldn't attend the zoom. I had, however , two friends who kept me fully informed throughout the evening. They both concur what Janne said,but neither heard CMP make any comment about the train track. I wonder how pop justice got that information? Be interested to know! There was a chat box where fans were asking questions and CMP answered most of them. So the 'Hit by a Train' comment was in there. He didn't say any more than 'more than a rumour'. So all we know is that he considers/is aware that a track with that title exists in some form but no more than that. |
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Post by Alan on Dec 1, 2023 12:03:12 GMT
It’s Janne Schaffer’s comment that "next year will be fantastic, I promise you” that I find more interesting.
How on earth do you top a brand new album and a holographic-like show? You can’t, but I would hope they are going to pull something out of the bag. As I said before, I’d hope that when the album was released in 2021, they already had an eye on the 2024 anniversary and deliberately held something back (though the apparent rush to get the album finished for a 2021 release clearly necessitated that anyway).
There’s definitely got to be something much more interesting than the vinyl Waterloo reissues, which are merely part of an ongoing series (and two others in that series have been released this year). A Mamma Mia! 3 film would not be it, and not even a slight change to the Voyage setlist would be enough.
CMP’s comment that Hit By A Train is more than a rumour isn’t really much more than we already knew, being as it was Little Boots (involved in the show) that mentioned it in the first place.
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Post by bennybjorn on Dec 1, 2023 22:18:03 GMT
There was a fan club webinar last night apparently. Nicked from another forum: Janne Schaffer was there and said "next year will be fantastic, I promise you"… Carl Magnus Palm revealed that 'Hit By A Train' is "more than a rumour". This is good news. Thanks for passing on, Alan. Whilst I'd be delighted to have just one (half decent) new song, for next year to 'be fantastic', I'm guessing we might get more. Bring it on! |
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Post by Dina on Dec 1, 2023 23:15:02 GMT
Rather they just mastered JLT and released that.
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