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Post by justabba on Jun 16, 2023 14:57:19 GMT
Not sure where to put this, but hot news I found on facebook this afternoon...
Catherine Tate was interviewed this morning on Zoe Ball Radio show. She is about to reprise her role as Donna on Dr. Who. She mentioned that Russell T Davies (Dr Who writer) is a friend of Bjorn and recently stayed with him on a trip to Stockholm. Bjorn told him about the two unreleased "Voyage" tracks and said watch this space for news about their release at a special event....
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Post by Sonia on Jun 16, 2023 17:32:31 GMT
Could the special event to potentially unveil the 2 songs be Eurovision in Stockholm next year or a Voyage anniversary or expansion to another city? Throw in JLT too and you have got a deal lol.
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Post by Alan on Jun 16, 2023 17:46:37 GMT
Catherine Tate was interviewed this morning on Zoe Ball Radio show. She is about to reprise her role as Donna on Dr. Who. She mentioned that Russell T Davies (Dr Who writer) is a friend of Bjorn and recently stayed with him on a trip to Stockholm. Bjorn told him about the two unreleased "Voyage" tracks and said watch this space for news about their release at a special event.... I really want to believe it’s true but as much as I love Catherine Tate, why couldn’t she keep her mouth shut? I can’t believe Björn told Russell T Davies this and wanted it quickly to become public knowledge. Benny is probably foaming at the mouth as we speak. [It’s wonderful that Catherine Tate’s Donna Noble is returning to Doctor Who but I’m equally excited about Bonnie Langford’s Mel Bush coming back properly for an episode after her recent cameo.]
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Post by Alan on Jun 17, 2023 10:28:09 GMT
Apparently Catherine Tate’s comment about ABBA has been removed from the broadcast, so if you try and listen out for it now, you won’t hear it (the rest of her interview is still there). Perhaps Björn too was angry about the leak, or maybe Benny was angry with him for apparently blabbing it to Russell T Davies in the first place…
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2023 10:31:08 GMT
Apparently Catherine Tate’s comment about ABBA has been removed from the broadcast, so if you try and listen out for it now, you won’t hear it (the rest of her interview is still there). Perhaps Björn too was angry about the leak, or maybe Benny was angry with him for apparently blabbing it to Russell T Davies in the first place… I can imagine they are both angry about it. Bjorn angry because he told something in confidence. And Benny angry because he's the Only Foot In Mouth Guy.
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Post by Donna on Jun 17, 2023 12:17:13 GMT
Apparently Catherine Tate’s comment about ABBA has been removed from the broadcast, so if you try and listen out for it now, you won’t hear it (the rest of her interview is still there). Perhaps Björn too was angry about the leak, or maybe Benny was angry with him for apparently blabbing it to Russell T Davies in the first place… That is a good sign that it might actually be true!
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Post by onlyabba4meagain on Jun 30, 2023 7:08:16 GMT
Here is a Link to a Wednesday June 28th 'Music Week' Article about ABBA. It says that the 'Voyage' Album has sold 474,955 UK copies, since it was Released. Plus -- We are to get a '50 Years of Waterloo' Documentary in 2024. I've been told, that the 2 New Songs are now finished. We are to get them in 2024. There may be more than 2. We will see. but, (I'm told), that we are not getting an Album. Please go to the Link below: link
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Post by Henry on Jun 30, 2023 7:15:15 GMT
...I am told...by who?
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Post by Alan on Jun 30, 2023 9:37:40 GMT
It’s not always helpful to name sources. Not helpful to the source who could get into trouble, and could negatively affect future leaks. As it supports what Catherine Tate said on Zoe Ball (expanding on it) I’m prepared to go with it. Thanks Colin onlyabba4meagain for the info. This would nicely finish off the Voyage album story. It was in need of some bonus tracks. All the other albums have some. [I’ve moved foreverfan’s very similar post to the main Voyage thread so that there isn’t repetition in the same topic.]
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Post by Dina on Jun 30, 2023 9:38:36 GMT
Thanks for the news. So I guess it will be a Voyage deluxe edition? If you say there may be more than 2 songs, I wish they would just shut us up and put JLT (sax version) on a reissue of More Gold or something.
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Post by voyage2 on Jun 30, 2023 9:41:32 GMT
Friendly note to Benny - can we PLEASE have one now, one 2024?!!!
I know in these days of streaming etc it is difficult to get to number one for an older act, but would be such a thrill if one of those songs was such a corker that it did make it! Still can't get over Kylie's latest getting higher than Don't Shut Me Down!!? Don't get me wrong, I love Kylie, but IMHO DSMD is superior (as is ISHFIY). Would be lovely to get a 10th number 1 single in the UK! DSMD and ISHFIY were, to me, good enough, so wondering what it would take to achieve it?
Heard LAYLOM on Radio 2 yesterday, sounded soooo good!
Knowing Me Knowing You will always be in my Top 3, but I wasn't too keen on the 1979 Wembley version, seemed too slow.
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Post by Alan on Jun 30, 2023 9:51:43 GMT
I don’t think we should get carried away here… even if either or both tracks are released as a single, I don’t see them being a big hit. The first two singles were hits mainly because they were the first completely new ABBA songs in 39 years. A new single next year wouldn’t have that distinction.
Similarly I don’t see a deluxe Voyage album returning to number one or even the top 10 necessarily. It will probably return to the chart but let’s be realistic.
The excitement here is the songs finally being released, not how successful they might be.
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Post by richard on Jun 30, 2023 10:47:27 GMT
Easy for me to say, of course, not being attuned to Björn and Benny's thinking (nor Agnetha and Frida's), but don't they want to get any music they have 'out there' while they can? Provided they deem that any new stuff they have is of listenable quality, obviously. But the notion of 'hits' is surely no longer of much consequence for older artists?
And this thought occurs to me: what might be generally regarded as a so-so song, I might love, who knows? So get the unreleased songs out there! Yes, easy for me to say.
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Post by voyage2 on Jun 30, 2023 11:27:25 GMT
I agree Alan. Of course, a high chart position is always nice, but just to hear these will be great!
I agree Richard, some Voyage songs certainly split opinion!
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Post by bennybjorn on Jun 30, 2023 12:11:21 GMT
Here is a Link to a Wednesday June 28th 'Music Week' Article about ABBA. It says that the 'Voyage' Album has sold 474,955 UK copies, since it was Released. Plus -- We are to get a '50 Years of Waterloo' Documentary in 2024. I've been told, that the 2 New Songs are now finished. We are to get them in 2024. There may be more than 2. We will see. but, (I'm told), that we are not getting an Album. Please go to the Link below: linkGreat news, OnlyAbba - thanks for letting us know. Also, would be amazing if there is more than the two songs. I've said all along that with Voyage, they seemed to have found an enjoyable and low-pressure way of writing, recording and releasing new songs so why not continue in some form, whilst they still have their health.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2023 13:16:32 GMT
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Post by justabba on Jun 30, 2023 13:44:18 GMT
Yes great news regarding the voyage album sales. In reality I really don't see a deluxe version with extra tracks coming anytime soon.
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Post by Alan on Jun 30, 2023 14:11:18 GMT
…it might be an idea to add them to the Voyage album - and take off the ghastly Little Things. Christmas songs don't belong on studio albums. It won’t get removed. As much as I agree with you on Christmas songs not being on studio albums, I wouldn’t want to see it officially removed. It wouldn’t be the same album if it was. However, if we do get two or three additional tracks, that would make a decent length album even without LT, so I’d certainly be removing it from my version of it (something which for any other album I would never do).
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Post by onlyabba4meagain on Jun 30, 2023 14:42:26 GMT
Henry, I cannot reveal my 'Source'. The 'Source' has told me in confidence. I do realize, that this makes it look like, I made it all up, or that the 'Source' is 'Useless'. Neither of those negative views are true -- at all. I have far too much respect for ABBA, and for my Fellow ABBA Fans, to go around making up 'News' about them. As does my 'Source'. The 'Source' is very honest indeed. I just hope that ABBA have Re-Titled 'Hit By A Train'!. If it is to be Released in 2024. It is a totally inappropriate Title, when a lot of unhappy People jump in front of Trains, each Year. Most, (if nor all), are killed. If the Song exists, that is! I recall 'News' being spread, about 'In The Can' and ' No-Mans Land', in late 1978, and early 1979! It was later Revealed, that neither Song actually existed!.
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Post by HOMETIME on Jun 30, 2023 17:13:16 GMT
Thanks for sharing this info, Colin!!
I think 2024 could shape up quite nicely, releases wise. When Colin posted, my mind didn't immediately go to an expanded/deluxe Voyage. It's entirely possible, I suppose, but I wonder whether these songs might be part of a different release - a compilation or anthology or something?
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Post by Alan on Jun 30, 2023 17:13:37 GMT
Didn’t the “Hit By A Train” title come from one of the performers of the Voyage show? Little Boots or someone? I imagine its actual title is something along those lines but not quite so literal.
When I first heard of that title, it reminded me of a line in Madonna’s “Erotica” - “I’ll give you love, I’ll hit you like a truck, I’ll give you love, I’ll teach you how to…” [implies but avoids using the “f” word].
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Post by HOMETIME on Jun 30, 2023 17:18:34 GMT
I know we covered the ground before, but I don't think too many people will be up in arms over the title (if it's real). I know they're older, but everyone got past ONJ's Heart Attack and INXS's Suicide Blonde (both of which I heard on an 80s radio station not too long ago). And, Madge's Erotica, as you say.
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Post by Alan on Jun 30, 2023 17:24:30 GMT
“Heart Attack” was tame compared to Madness’s “Cardiac Arrest”.
Perhaps it might just be “Hit Like A Train”. I’d be disappointed if this song isn’t one of the two as I really want to hear it!
Did someone have a title for the other Voyage outtake? I seem to recall Adam had one but not sure where it came from.
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Post by lamont on Jun 30, 2023 19:50:39 GMT
We can read too much into titles, was only recently I thought about TFTPOO and how of it’s time it is, a bit chauvinistic it can be, till the final punchline.
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Post by Tinneke on Jun 30, 2023 20:29:17 GMT
My story ends with you is the other title
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Post by richard on Jun 30, 2023 21:35:27 GMT
My story ends with you is the other title Thanks for that, Tinneke. I like that title. It suggests rich romantic lyrical possibilities, positive or negative. Mind you, the implications of the title "My Story Begins With You" would seem more appealing if looking for the brighter aspects of love as the subject-matter. But that's just going by a title. Hopefully, we'll get to hear what Björn has come up with - with Benny's music, of course - in 2024. So much wishing Colin's source is right!
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Post by evilincarnate on Jul 1, 2023 4:13:19 GMT
Here is a Link to a Wednesday June 28th 'Music Week' Article about ABBA. It says that the 'Voyage' Album has sold 474,955 UK copies, since it was Released. Plus -- We are to get a '50 Years of Waterloo' Documentary in 2024. I've been told, that the 2 New Songs are now finished. We are to get them in 2024. There may be more than 2. We will see. but, (I'm told), that we are not getting an Album. Please go to the Link below: linkGreat news, OnlyAbba - thanks for letting us know. Also, would be amazing if there is more than the two songs. I've said all along that with Voyage, they seemed to have found an enjoyable and low-pressure way of writing, recording and releasing new songs so why not continue in some form, whilst they still have their health. Brilliant news about the two 'Voyage' outtakes (I assume these are the two songs that will eventuate) being finished and potentially getting released in 2024. My instincts tell me this is legitimate information. I assume the release will tie in with Eurovision 2024 so that will be the inevitable release date - i.e. mid-to-late May 2024. Of course, being the eternal optimist (in terms of unreleased/new ABBA material), my beady eyes zoomed in on " There may be more than 2" and wonder what might transpire there... As much as I truly long for one last album, I acknowledge that this is unlikely, and according to the new information, accept that " we are we are not getting an Album". The question is whether Benny and Bjorn are continuing to work on new compositions/recordings in organic fashion, with no definite plans for what the outcome will be - i.e. will they just allow things to transpire as they naturally occur and possibly end up with three or more songs by the projected release date, and if they continue to enjoy the experience (without any outside pressures), will future releases occur beyond mid-2024? My suspicions have long been that both Frida and Agnetha are keen to participate as long as the songs are there - in terms of availability and quality. Bjorn, I believe remains interested, but he's sufficiently astute to realise that Benny cannot be pushed in any way. I guess we shall see. With regard to the supposed two song titles, both seem promising in my opinion. I have no issue with the title of "Hit By A Train" (which I assume to be the upbeat, pop track) and call bull%&$! on the notion that this could possibly inspire suicidal tendencies. Outrage for the sake of outrage as far as I'm concerned. "My Story Ends With You" is suggestive of elaborate ABBA balladry (along the lines of "The Winner Takes It All") and my initial thoughts are that it will present a positive narrative, as in appreciation for an enduring, final love. I wonder if Agnetha will be given the lead on this one with Frida taking up lead duties on "Hit By A Train" (although for some reason, I always assumed this track would contain a co-lead vocal, don't know why)? In terms of how the two (or more) songs are issued, I don't believe it will be an expanded version of 'Voyage' - by 2024, the album will be considered old news. It's more likely that one or more tracks will be incorporated into the 'Voyage' show, not the album. A double-A single or two separate singles may be issued but in terms of an album 'home', it's more likely that there will be some type of 50th (Eurovision-inspired) anthology or hits collection, 'ABBA Gold' notwithstanding. In any case, this new information is entirely positive from my perspective. Let the excitement prevail! PS I believe it was Little Boots who initially mentioned the title of "Hit By A Train", commenting that Benny had played the track to her during 'Voyage' show rehearsals circa 2021 (perhaps earlier). I wonder if Benny did this because he was pleased with the track at that stage and whether they possibly motion-captured it for potential inclusion? Whenever the "five or six" left over motion-captured performances are referenced, whoever is discussing them is always suitably vague about how many or which songs were recorded. I also wonder if Benny - and the other three - always considered these 'outtakes' to be of a high standard but either simply didn't have time to complete them by the album's sign-off in August 2021 or were intentionally holding them back for a separate, future release? These guys are savvy so if they thought there was potential gold in the form of these two tracks, they may have decided not to 'waste' them on the album, but rather issue them as singles to coincide with a momentous event, such as the Eurovision 50th anniversary win. (I recall previous speculation that "Hit By A Train" may have been initially recorded during the 2019 sessions but even so, it's more than likely that Benny was not completely satisfied at the time and planned to revisit it at some later stage.)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2023 4:27:22 GMT
Hit By a Train conjures up images of something more uptempo and My Story Ends With You perhaps a more positive The Day Before You Came.
How will they be released? Streaming first then an album? That would make them seem like singles. Probably on a Definitive Collection type album. Would this exclude the pre-Waterloo songs and be "50 Years Since Waterloo" type thing?
I have no problem either with the title Hit My a Train. I think Colin is being a bit sensitive. And also probably translation misunderstanding relating to "in the can".
Thanks Colin for the scoops.
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Post by justabba on Jul 1, 2023 6:59:41 GMT
Evilincarnate, your views and mine co incide exactly!
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Post by HOMETIME on Jul 1, 2023 10:36:53 GMT
[...] PS I believe it was Little Boots who initially mentioned the title of "Hit By A Train", commenting that Benny had played the track to her during 'Voyage' show rehearsals circa 2021 (perhaps earlier). I wonder if Benny did this because he was pleased with the track at that stage and whether they possibly motion-captured it for potential inclusion? Whenever the "five or six" left over motion-captured performances are referenced, whoever is discussing them is always suitably vague about how many or which songs were recorded. I also wonder if Benny - and the other three - always considered these 'outtakes' to be of a high standard but either simply didn't have time to complete them by the album's sign-off in August 2021 or were intentionally holding them back for a separate, future release? These guys are savvy so if they thought there was potential gold in the form of these two tracks, they may have decided not to 'waste' them on the album, but rather issue them as singles to coincide with a momentous event, such as the Eurovision 50th anniversary win. (I recall previous speculation that "Hit By A Train" may have been initially recorded during the 2019 sessions but even so, it's more than likely that Benny was not completely satisfied at the time and planned to revisit it at some later stage.) This might make no sense at all, but bear with me... What if Little Boots had been roped in to add a token overdub to either track? What if it was a strategy to promote the idea that Voyage is a living, evolving entity with the ongoing attention of its creators, but including the talent of the new torch bearers? If a compilation included a track or two in their Voyage versions, would something like this tie in more easily to amplify interest in the show and any new ABBA music? If it didn't work, it could be written off as a well-meant experiment that ultimately proved that ABBA couldn't be bettered.
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