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Post by evilincarnate on Jan 28, 2024 3:35:22 GMT
Interesting...
Bjorn is a tricky customer in many respects and seems to enjoy toying with the fans.
Could this simply be him revisiting old haunts in the lead up to the 'Waterloo' anniversary release, similar to the way he promoted the anniversary release of 'Ring Ring' early last year? I hope it goes beyond that...
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Post by foreverfan on Jan 30, 2024 12:00:06 GMT
There's probably plenty of other comparisons out there.....
Just listened to UK Radio 2 Vernon Kay, playing Beverly Knight ' Not Prepared For You " and a line in it my Heart was Hit Like A Train, ( mentioned more than once) So that elusive track/ title may not be to far off the mark if it exists...... After all it is just figuratively speaking and nothing dark and sinister... to much " woke" these days...
Isn't Bjorn a tease, what is he up to...... Benny being his usual self in no comment....
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Post by johnny on Jan 30, 2024 16:28:37 GMT
too much "woke" these days. You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment. 😀
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Post by voyage2 on Jan 30, 2024 16:31:41 GMT
Maybe that photo has already been taken with all four of them! Releasing this one now, maybe Benny will appear in the photo with Bjorn in February, Frida in March, then Agnetha in April! in the same positions/poses as the earlier photo!! That would be lovely. And maybe we'll get Voyage 2 with that as the front cover photo and the old photo on the back??!! Wishful thinking!
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Post by bjorenny on Jan 30, 2024 17:12:27 GMT
Funnily enough, Voyage2, I thought exactly the same regarding other ABBA members joining him one at a time. I don't want subtlety and teasers though, I just want to know if something's happening or not!
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Post by skiing55 on Feb 1, 2024 9:13:48 GMT
There is nothing wrong with the abba Christmas song little things what is wrong with people
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Post by Alan on Feb 1, 2024 9:58:49 GMT
There is nothing wrong with the abba Christmas song little things what is wrong with people I’m not sure you’ll get far with that kind of attitude. There’s nothing wrong with anyone on here. I have tried to get on with that song, even saving it for December and never hearing it outside that, but I can’t make myself like it. I think it’s similar for others on here. It was a mis-step on ABBA’s part. Putting it on the album was a bad idea. As a single-only bonus after the album release, it might have been better appreciated (as long as the album still had 10 tracks!)
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Post by bennybjorn on Feb 13, 2024 0:31:13 GMT
Hi, it's been a while since I checked in round here. Am I right in thinking that the consensus is we're probably not going to here the (two) new-ish songs now after all? Thanks.
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Post by justabba on Feb 13, 2024 7:52:00 GMT
Hi, it's been a while since I checked in round here. Am I right in thinking that the consensus is we're probably not going to here the (two) new-ish songs now after all? Thanks. In reality no one knows anything. It's all speculation, rumour and conjecture. Dont give up hope yet!
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Post by jorgen01 on Feb 19, 2024 13:46:27 GMT
any updates on these rumours maybe?
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Post by AdamDawson2003 on Feb 19, 2024 14:00:09 GMT
Just listened to UK Radio 2 Vernon Kay, playing Beverly Knight ' Not Prepared For You " and a line in it my Heart was Hit Like A Train, ( mentioned more than once) So that elusive track/ title may not be to far off the mark if it exists...... After all it is just figuratively speaking and nothing dark and sinister... to much " woke" these days... The line is actually 'you hit my heart like a train'
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Post by bennybjorn on Feb 29, 2024 22:57:28 GMT
O dear - every time I come here hoping for news and there's just nothing in this thread. Guess we've all given up on the prospect of new songs...
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Post by Gina on Mar 1, 2024 8:55:43 GMT
I doubt there will be anything significant this year and Voyage tickets have been extended into 2025. I don’t like how the show is hidden from people who cannot attend it, like maybe release audio of it at least?
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Post by HOMETIME on Mar 1, 2024 10:13:44 GMT
Given the massive cost of the production, I'm sure there's some reason to keep it "hidden" as you describe it. On the other hand, many a West End/Broadway show is matched with a cast album. Exhibit A: Chess. There are so many great surprises in the show, that an album could take some of the shine away. But given how many people have now seen the show, there could be merit in releasing at least some of the tracks.
I guess any decision they make will be built around strategies to recoup $140 million.
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Post by gassi on Mar 1, 2024 15:03:49 GMT
I think it was 2022 or 2023 when Svana and Ludvig said in an interview, that there are plans to release a live album of the show because of the band's great quality and to give them a platform with this release.
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Post by HOMETIME on Mar 1, 2024 17:18:39 GMT
That would be great. And if they decide to shake up the setlist, there's scope for the later release of a deluxe edition with extra tracks. Every little helps, I suppose, when those massive investments need to be recouped.
If they ever decide to release a VR edition, my son can kiss his Metaquest headset goodbye!
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Post by BB on Mar 2, 2024 0:21:32 GMT
ABBA will not release ant more music.Thats 100% sure.The rumours about the 2 new unreleased songs will be released started as a 1 of April joke and Hit by a train is just a false thing.There are 2 unfinished songs but they will stay that way.We have seen the end of ABBA.There will be rumours but everyone of them are just bullstuff.If the songs will be released in the future it will be with another artist and no connection to the ABBA legacy.
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Post by HOMETIME on Mar 2, 2024 1:02:15 GMT
I, for one, am really psyched that Mystic Meg has joined the discussion.
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Post by Justin 2024 on Mar 2, 2024 8:42:25 GMT
ABBA will not release ant more music.Thats 100% sure.The rumours about the 2 new unreleased songs will be released started as a 1 of April joke and Hit by a train is just a false thing.There are 2 unfinished songs but they will stay that way.We have seen the end of ABBA.There will be rumours but everyone of them are just bullstuff.If the songs will be released in the future it will be with another artist and no connection to the ABBA legacy. Lol this is more "bullstuff" from the person with multiple names? Can we add septic peg?
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Post by Alan on Mar 2, 2024 10:08:06 GMT
Lol this is more "bullstuff" from the person with multiple names? Can we add septic peg? I was thinking the same but I checked and apparently not. We have had over 1,200 “guests” viewing the forum in the last 24 hours so I suppose it shouldn’t be too much of a surprise that one or two trolls will post…
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Post by skiing55 on Mar 2, 2024 12:44:37 GMT
Not heard anything about CMP not being able to talk about the unreleased voyage songs
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Post by Henry on Mar 2, 2024 14:15:22 GMT
I have read that B and B didn't want to give any info about the songs to him
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Post by justabba on Mar 2, 2024 15:45:49 GMT
That's absolutely correct. Carl said last year he was told ABBA wish to keep the 2 songs "secret ".
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Post by bjorenny on Mar 2, 2024 16:51:52 GMT
Despite everything, my gut feeling is that we will get some new ABBA music this year, be that brand new, the leftover Voyage tracks, or old previously unreleased stuff from their heyday. It just feels like they doth protest too much re: nothing left to release. When you add the Catherine Tate faux pas, and Agnetha being non-commital on Zoe Ball and saying she can't say too much regarding ABBA, I still think that some things are being kept under wraps for some big announcement. My dream (although this bit is a bit of a stretch) is that Benny recording new music with BAO is a smokescreen and really it's a new ABBA album.
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Post by richard on Mar 2, 2024 17:50:08 GMT
I'm hoping that if there has been any reluctance from B&B to do something this anniversary year has been overcome by Agnetha and Frida. It's the stuff of dreams - a great final album. So I'm dreaming ...
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Post by flynnic on Mar 9, 2024 13:25:43 GMT
I have now read through the entirety of this thread as a guest, to the point of which I felt the need to register as a member on the forum to at least share my thoughts about all the rumours, speculation etc. . Talk about encouragement, eh? I do not know anything more that anyone on this thread knows, I have no insider information, nothing exciting to share. But, I do want to give my 2 cents on this, considering that we are now less than a month away from the Eurovision Final Anniversary! We all know that to take Bjorn or Bennys word literally in regards to new material, announcements, or anything new revolving ABBA, is rather trivial in this context . This business regarding 'There is nothing left to be released / in the vaults' is surely smoke and mirrors (I apologise to regurgitate what many members have already said !!). There are unreleased tracks in the vaults. CMP had access to the vaults whilst writing his aforementioned book - so for Bjorn to say that this isn't the case is surely some sort of white lie ? I hardly see him being outright dishonest, and judging by his track record of dealing with rumours and speculation, I am fairly confident there is more than just "nothing" . B&B know about the mythical ethos surrounding ABBAs unreleased material; they are aware. I am wondering as to whether Bjorn's comments in the interview are related to next month / this year for ABBA - and still cannot make my mind up , but regardless strongly feel that his statement does mean something for old unreleased material . How many times have we heard that there is nothing left. That it is over. We all hear that right up until an announcement of X, Y, and Z most of the time . Regarding the unreleased songs from the Voyage sessions, it is very interesting that the 'Radio 2 incident' was edited out. I suppose on the contrary it could be a very clever marketing stunt, but I struggle to see this, knowing that we have been made aware of these tracks through more than one source. We also know that CMP has some knowledge regarding the future of the two tracks (at least, he DID at the time) and so for them to simply sit on a hard drive or shelf eternally now seems inaccurate. This year, through various sources (and quite obviously ourselves), has been hyped up as being somewhat of a biggie, you all know the reasons, milestones etc. In my opinion, the question really boils down to if we are getting just a bit, or the whole shooting match. Keep in mind - Voyage is still plugging away, and there is every chance we could end up hearing about future plans, new songs added to the setlist, or something along those lines. But to fans hungry for every last drop, could that really constitute as a 'Big Year' ? An anthology - or collection, spanning the groups entire career, to me seems somewhat plausible. There is old unreleased material sitting doing nothing, and also 'new' unreleased material now. As I wrote above - will most of these things really just sit on a shelf for the rest of their (and our) lifetimes? B&B are their own harshest critics, but to hide these things away eternally when there is such demand does seem slightly counter-intuitive. We are getting HSMs of (supposedly) all of the albums on their retrospective 50th anniversaries, and I am unsure what would be released after that point. More reissues ? More singles box sets ? It seems that there are only so many times you can employ these tactics with physical packages on a wider consumer/commercial sense - especially when streaming is thrown into the mix these days. Again, if an anthology, or collection were to happen, it is rather hard to say when, and I do struggle with the idea of it being sooner rather than later. It would make sense for something like this to be released following any further HSMs, but I suppose it isn't impossible to be sooner rather than later. Bjorn at the Stockholm canopy does seem rather suggestive when paired with the notion of 'revisiting old material'... Ever the optimist, I suppose !! In retrospect with all this in mind - I can't see it being too long before we get an announcement for something, whether it be relating to Voyage, whether it be new or old material, or simply whether it be a new video on the YouTube channel ... Time will tell !! Again, I'm only mulling things over in my head- the thread has been a really interesting read, and I'm greatly looking forward to seeing what we do get . Well, they're my thoughts. Off to get a Cuppa now !!!
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Post by justabba on Mar 9, 2024 14:28:55 GMT
Welcome flynnic! Some interesting ideas there...
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Post by Alan on Mar 9, 2024 14:32:38 GMT
A warm welcome to the forum, flynnic. Almost every new account lately has been a spammer so it’s nice to see a long post that isn’t some unfathomable nonsense that I have to delete! Reading through six pages is some commitment! I hope you’re right. It’s too hard to believe that all we’re going to get this year is the Waterloo anniversary stuff that’s merely part of an ongoing series. That would be such a damp squib.
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Post by matt on Mar 9, 2024 14:58:17 GMT
The only thing that something may happen this year is from Janne Schaffer when he spoke at the fan club webinar in November. He said: "next year will be fantastic, I promise you"…
He was the first person to confirm that there would be a Voyage album shortly before the official announcement so he seems to have some insider knowledge.
Got to think he wouldn't have said this if it was only going to be Waterloo reissues and the SVT gala?
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Post by HOMETIME on Mar 9, 2024 15:55:04 GMT
Welcome flynnic ! Great first post. You're totally right about the HSM programme coming to a natural end: there's only the eponymous album left. Unless they decide to bring Gracias Por La Musica into the fold? I suppose they could do it for Voyage. It might feel a bit soon, given that it's only two years old. But it might improve on the muddy sound of the current version. Some creative thinking is now needed to keep people from being able to clear their credit card balances. I suppose that, technically, they could do HSMs of Gold and More Gold.... If so, I hope they do so on 33RPM discs. I treated myself to The Visitors HSM and, while the sound is fantastic, it's like I forked out for a pair of very expensive 12" singles. At least I get my steps in, returning to the record player every ten minutes to change sides/discs. Gold/More Gold would probably be 5-disc sets at 45RPM? That's mortgage/sell-a-kidney territory. I'm keeping some faith in Janne Schaffer's comments and even Catherine Tate's gossip. I no longer pay very serious attention to Bjorn's comments on what is/isn't left in the vaults. Benny might be a complete buzzkill on the matter too, but I think Ludvig could be a positive (albeit slow) influence there. I'd like to think that Agnetha and Frida have some persuasive power too. The content of the documentary might give some more reasonable clues as to what material remains, and what the beards' attitude to it is. I've said this before, but I hope they understand that those dusty old tracks have some real use in demonstrating exactly how hard they worked, how high their standards were, how albums were shaped, and how seriously they took their craft. Documentaries and anthologies are great for that kind of context setting. Releasing the tracks in that delineated context means that they're not peddling anything as a lost classic: they can be quasi educational; footnotes, even. The audience then decides whether it's a lost classic or a skipper.
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