More new songs from Voyage sessions? Or perhaps not…

And also let’s not forget this, that started it all…

⬆️ Definitely. A complete silence or simple "no comment" would be much better.

Another glimmer of hope is that Janne Schaffer has had insider knowledge before, and spoke in August 2021 about the new ABBA album (then apologised and said he was 'wrong') and then the next month the Voyage album was officially announced. I've never clutched at straws as much as I have today with these posts.

Did Carl Magnus Palm not say 'the story of the new songs is more than just rumour', quite recently?

When he says that Abba is over and nothing will be released anymore...I believe that's the truth

I've just listened to Bjorn's interview with the intent of ascertaining any inflections in his voice, beyond his actual words, in an effort to interpret the comments in an alternative way.

When he says "...there’s nothing more now. Every little snippet that we ever recorded has been released”, I initially wondered if he was simply referring to the past, as in the first ten years of their existence, which could mean more recent/current recording might still be possible. However, when he responds to the question about potential new ABBA compositions by sating "...but ABBA is no more", that tends to put a dampener on such possibilities.

Based on Benny's 2021 comments about the two 'Voyage' outtakes being worthwhile but needing more work (inferring this could be done in the future); Catherine Tate's slip-up in early 2023; Jane Schaffer's recent comment (which was similar to his pre-'Voyage' gaffe); Bjorn's own previous comments about doing things differently in 2024 and an unconfirmed source mentioning last year that there would be two news songs, maybe more but no album, I suspect something may be coming, but perhaps not in April as I had previously thought. April will most likely be dedicated to the 'Waterloo' reissue campaign and then we might get something 'new' towards the end of the year?

The best-case scenario would be that all four members have had their passion to co-create reignited and that a final album could be underway, with a potential release of November/December 2024 or late in 2025. I realise that's incredibly unlikely, but as others have mentioned, they have surprised us before.

I imagine that the previous (2017-2021) mantra of only releasing work that is up to their required/collective standard still stands and therefore, if they were considering anything from a couple of tracks to a fully-fledged album, they would still reserve the right to pull the plug at any time. That might have become the fate of the two 'Voyage' outtakes - at one stage, they may have considered them good enough to tinker with but then upon reflection, didn't consider them of high enough quality and/or a suitable swansong to their career?

The more I think about yesterdays depressing day I wonder whether he was just bluffing and trying to direct questions away from any releases. Anyone knows what he said was clearly untrue.

Carl Magnus Palm has just confirmed that his new book will start shipping from mid-March, so if there is any news in there about upcoming releases, I'm guessing it will be officially revealed to us by then at the latest.

His original book The Complete Recording Sessions (or whatever it was called) used the ABBA logo, suggesting it was officially licensed. The later version of it didn’t, and I don’t think any of his other books have. Did he fall out of favour at some point? But if that’s the case, how was he allowed access to the “vaults” in order to write about what he heard?

I believe his new book was crowd-funded five years ago and only now going into print? I can’t imagine paying for something that I’m not going to get for five years.

(Other than the original version of The Complete Recording sessions, which I bought second-hand years later, I’ve only read his Bright Lights, Dark Shadows - bought to read on a long-haul flight - which I wasn’t over-impressed with. I think he’s a bit over-rated and not as knowledgeable as many seem to think).

^^ This! Bjorn's relationship to facts isn't always too reliable.

We've been promised that there'll be "lots of fun" this year, so the half-speed Waterloo had better come with a decent joke book if there's nothing new in the pipeline. 

I agree that "lie" is probably too strong a word. However, the denying of everything around Voyage was understandable and we had no proof it was otherwise until the very last moment. But to try and persuade us that there is nothing left in the vaults is another thing and not very smart to do, because everybody knows it isnt't true.

Yes, that's exactly what I meant 😃

Surely the spinning of webs of misinformation/disinformation, recourse to plausible/implausible denials and the general sowing of seeds of confusion is very much 'industry standard' for the music biz. My money's on a three-quarter-speed master of Tropical Loveland.

[Edit by Alan - see abbachat.boards.net/thread/1639/tropical-loveland for discussion inspired by the last sentence of @thisboycries’ post. And thanks welshboy for posting yours in that topic and reminding me that it exists!]

And now Björn teases a photo of him back where people need love cover was shot. "Oh Björn isnt somthing missing?"
On his Instagram. It's like Jekell and Hyde.

Sorry don't know how to link the page.